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    Default Deep cycle battery advice

    Need to replace the deep cycle battery in my Jurgens XCape. Anyone had experience with the Willard 791 Leisure 105A? Price from Willard dealer is R2300 including the old battery or the Enertec 105A from ODW at R2900 excluding the old battery?
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Personally I would go for a solar gel battery. I've found that the lead acid types in my trailers and caravans have never performed like they should.

    I now have a teardrop trailer with a 200ah slim solar gel battery and it works fantastically.

    If that is too big for you then get the 100ah gel batteries. Prices range for R2k to R3k
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Thanks for the Thread, also looking for a new DC Battery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ubbo View Post
    Personally I would go for a solar gel battery. I've found that the lead acid types in my trailers and caravans have never performed like they should.

    I now have a teardrop trailer with a 200ah slim solar gel battery and it works fantastically.

    If that is too big for you then get the 100ah gel batteries. Prices range for R2k to R3k
    Just familiarise yourself with the specific charging requirements for Gel batteries.

    They have lower cell voltages than AGM batteries

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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Ubbo View Post
    Personally I would go for a solar gel battery. I've found that the lead acid types in my trailers and caravans have never performed like they should.

    I now have a teardrop trailer with a 200ah slim solar gel battery and it works fantastically.

    If that is too big for you then get the 100ah gel batteries. Prices range for R2k to R3k
    My 2 x 105ah Lead Acid Batteries perform 100% in my Everest Trailer

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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    There are many brands

    I do not like the Sealed / Maintenance Free type as I want to be able to properly service it myself (Monitoring Electrolyte levels and SG)

    So if you are prepared to do basic maintenance on your battery the Dixon DC105DT is the most robust on the market:

    https://www.dixonbatteries.co.za/105...wh-327x170x240

    Else go LifePO4
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Dungbeetle View Post
    There are many brands

    I do not like the Sealed / Maintenance Free type as I want to be able to properly service it myself (Monitoring Electrolyte levels and SG)

    So if you are prepared to do basic maintenance on your battery the Dixon DC105DT is the most robust on the market:

    https://www.dixonbatteries.co.za/105...wh-327x170x240

    Else go LifePO4
    The challenge here is that the battery will be installed inside a caravan typically under a bed.
    The gassing during charging and discharging could be an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaan Pot View Post
    The challenge here is that the battery will be installed inside a caravan typically under a bed.
    The gassing during charging and discharging could be an issue.
    Yes that is correct and also not easy to get to for regular checking etc.
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    I have just (yesterday) bought two Probe Extreme Deep Cycle 110 AH lead acid maintenance free at R 2 400 ea.
    Linked providing 12 V to my 1 000 W inverter.
    Let's see how that goes ....

    Yes, I would be wary of the fumes inside a caravan - not a nice smell to have hanging around in there.

    It turn out that the two 100 AH I had in there had been bought in 2013 and 2005 respectively, so I guess they served their time - also lead acid maintenance free.
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Ek gebruik Probe XTREME 105A/H deep cycle battery baie baie gelukkig met hulle

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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Why did you not buy a 120Ah lifepo4 battery. Would cost a fraction more, add a dc-dc charger with lifepo charging profile and bobs your uncle. What is extreme deep cycle in any case. How deep can you cycle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1949 View Post
    I have just (yesterday) bought two Probe Extreme Deep Cycle 110 AH lead acid maintenance free at R 2 400 ea.
    Linked providing 12 V to my 1 000 W inverter.
    Let's see how that goes ....

    Yes, I would be wary of the fumes inside a caravan - not a nice smell to have hanging around in there.

    It turn out that the two 100 AH I had in there had been bought in 2013 and 2005 respectively, so I guess they served their time - also lead acid maintenance free.
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1949 View Post
    I have just (yesterday) bought two Probe Extreme Deep Cycle 110 AH lead acid maintenance free at R 2 400 ea.
    Linked providing 12 V to my 1 000 W inverter.
    Let's see how that goes ....

    Yes, I would be wary of the fumes inside a caravan - not a nice smell to have hanging around in there.

    It turn out that the two 100 AH I had in there had been bought in 2013 and 2005 respectively, so I guess they served their time - also lead acid maintenance free.
    Was that price including handing old batteries in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1949 View Post
    It turn out that the two 100 AH I had in there had been bought in 2013 and 2005 respectively, so I guess they served their time - also lead acid maintenance free.
    Peter if I am not mistaken, you mention on one stage that you are going to mix one deep cycle with one high cycle (starter batter?).

    Did you ever went that way and if so, how did that serve you in the end?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungbeetle View Post
    There are many brands

    I do not like the Sealed / Maintenance Free type as I want to be able to properly service it myself (Monitoring Electrolyte levels and SG)

    So if you are prepared to do basic maintenance on your battery the Dixon DC105DT is the most robust on the market:

    https://www.dixonbatteries.co.za/105...wh-327x170x240

    Else go LifePO4
    Ja-Nee! I agree. These SLA batteries are for those people not wanting to get involved.
    If you check out the real deep cycle batteries they are always wet batteries that you can equalize.
    This battery is the same price as any equivalent lead acid battery. It's time for me to check Dixon out..

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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard Mackay View Post
    Ja-Nee! I agree. These SLA batteries are for those people not wanting to get involved.
    If you check out the real deep cycle batteries they are always wet batteries that you can equalize.
    This battery is the same price as any equivalent lead acid battery. It's time for me to check Dixon out..
    But as was mentioned the battery in the caravan is under the bed and quite awkward to get to for regular checking and then what about the potential of fumes in that confined space while you are sleeping right on top of it?
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Is the SMF100 a true deep cycle? It is marketed as a leisure battery. Is there a difference?

    I always had good life out of them.
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by KobusDJ View Post
    Is the SMF100 a true deep cycle? It is marketed as a leisure battery. Is there a difference?

    I always had good life out of them.
    As soon as the market gets hold of a buzz word that it can use and abuse they do just that!
    IMHO only the big batteries (Trojan etc. and those 2V batteries) are 'deep cycle'

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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by KobusDJ View Post
    Is the SMF100 a true deep cycle? It is marketed as a leisure battery. Is there a difference?

    I always had good life out of them.
    Battery center's smf100 silver calcium is a marked as a heavy duty diesel starter battery[It is not a deep cycle battery in the true sense but because of the plate thickness it can be used a s both a starting battery and would work well as a inverter/ups battery[high cycle battery] ,as long as you don't subject it to high discharge rates[safe limit up to 25percent of total ]. From experience when used on the intelligent inverters [inverters with built in chargers and auto switching from eskom to battery and back during power failures this battery will give about 5 years service ] last cost, end march 2021 cash price just below R2000.00. Not totally sealed and comes with 2 year guarantee as a starter battery and on an inverter , 1 year. [only if you tell them].

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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by KobusDJ View Post
    Is the SMF100 a true deep cycle? It is marketed as a leisure battery. Is there a difference?

    I always had good life out of them.
    I would think it is not as it should never be discharged more than 80%. Also they have a high CCA unlike deep cycle batteries of 700A and can be used as starting batteries.

    For what it is worth Fluffy also seems to like these .

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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Petzer View Post
    But as was mentioned the battery in the caravan is under the bed and quite awkward to get to for regular checking and then what about the potential of fumes in that confined space while you are sleeping right on top of it?
    Fair enough! In this application Li-Ion has got to be the best option.
    My comment is about lead acid batteries in general...

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