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    Default Deep cycle battery advice

    Need to replace the deep cycle battery in my Jurgens XCape. Anyone had experience with the Willard 791 Leisure 105A? Price from Willard dealer is R2300 including the old battery or the Enertec 105A from ODW at R2900 excluding the old battery?
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Personally I would go for a solar gel battery. I've found that the lead acid types in my trailers and caravans have never performed like they should.

    I now have a teardrop trailer with a 200ah slim solar gel battery and it works fantastically.

    If that is too big for you then get the 100ah gel batteries. Prices range for R2k to R3k
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Thanks for the Thread, also looking for a new DC Battery
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    There are many brands

    I do not like the Sealed / Maintenance Free type as I want to be able to properly service it myself (Monitoring Electrolyte levels and SG)

    So if you are prepared to do basic maintenance on your battery the Dixon DC105DT is the most robust on the market:

    https://www.dixonbatteries.co.za/105...wh-327x170x240

    Else go LifePO4
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Ubbo View Post
    Personally I would go for a solar gel battery. I've found that the lead acid types in my trailers and caravans have never performed like they should.

    I now have a teardrop trailer with a 200ah slim solar gel battery and it works fantastically.

    If that is too big for you then get the 100ah gel batteries. Prices range for R2k to R3k
    Just familiarise yourself with the specific charging requirements for Gel batteries.

    They have lower cell voltages than AGM batteries

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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Dungbeetle View Post
    There are many brands

    I do not like the Sealed / Maintenance Free type as I want to be able to properly service it myself (Monitoring Electrolyte levels and SG)

    So if you are prepared to do basic maintenance on your battery the Dixon DC105DT is the most robust on the market:

    https://www.dixonbatteries.co.za/105...wh-327x170x240

    Else go LifePO4
    The challenge here is that the battery will be installed inside a caravan typically under a bed.
    The gassing during charging and discharging could be an issue.

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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaan Pot View Post
    The challenge here is that the battery will be installed inside a caravan typically under a bed.
    The gassing during charging and discharging could be an issue.
    Yes that is correct and also not easy to get to for regular checking etc.
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    I have just (yesterday) bought two Probe Extreme Deep Cycle 110 AH lead acid maintenance free at R 2 400 ea.
    Linked providing 12 V to my 1 000 W inverter.
    Let's see how that goes ....

    Yes, I would be wary of the fumes inside a caravan - not a nice smell to have hanging around in there.

    It turn out that the two 100 AH I had in there had been bought in 2013 and 2005 respectively, so I guess they served their time - also lead acid maintenance free.
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Ek gebruik Probe XTREME 105A/H deep cycle battery baie baie gelukkig met hulle

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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Boslover View Post
    Ek gebruik Probe XTREME 105A/H deep cycle battery baie baie gelukkig met hulle
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    Boslover waar jy hulle gekoop?
    Their head office is in Germiston - https://www.probegroup.co.za/Branches
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Petzer View Post
    Need to replace the deep cycle battery in my Jurgens XCape. Anyone had experience with the Willard 791 Leisure 105A? Price from Willard dealer is R2300 including the old battery or the Enertec 105A from ODW at R2900 excluding the old battery?
    Mark I had 2 x Willard Leisure 722 50 a/h that were in my van when I bought it. See my add in the classifieds. I must say that they were not sealed / was able to check levels & SG / vent to atmosphere and seemed to me more like a high cycle than a deep cycle though. They were inside the van and I was wary of the fumes but could never smell them. I also was careful not to discharge more than 30%. They were still good after 3 plus years. I replaced them with one 125 a/h Victron Super Cycle.
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Why did you not buy a 120Ah lifepo4 battery. Would cost a fraction more, add a dc-dc charger with lifepo charging profile and bobs your uncle. What is extreme deep cycle in any case. How deep can you cycle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1949 View Post
    I have just (yesterday) bought two Probe Extreme Deep Cycle 110 AH lead acid maintenance free at R 2 400 ea.
    Linked providing 12 V to my 1 000 W inverter.
    Let's see how that goes ....

    Yes, I would be wary of the fumes inside a caravan - not a nice smell to have hanging around in there.

    It turn out that the two 100 AH I had in there had been bought in 2013 and 2005 respectively, so I guess they served their time - also lead acid maintenance free.
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Nambro View Post
    Why did you not buy a 120Ah lifepo4 battery. Would cost a fraction more, add a dc-dc charger with lifepo charging profile and bobs your uncle. What is extreme deep cycle in any case. How deep can you cycle.
    Perhaps a fraction more means different things to different people. I think Fluffy has also explained when you not cycling everyday why lead acid still has its place. For LS you will have more capacity for that once in a while with lead acid.
    Add the cost of buying a new charger for Lifepo to the fraction.
    My take on it. Peter can give us his reasons.

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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Nambro View Post
    Why did you not buy a 120Ah lifepo4 battery. Would cost a fraction more, add a dc-dc charger with lifepo charging profile and bobs your uncle. What is extreme deep cycle in any case. How deep can you cycle.
    Thanks for your input.

    To answer the questions:
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    I did not know of the product that you mention but then would probably have considered two of them depending on HOW MUCH more expensive.
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    I now have 2 x 110 Ah = 220 Ah / 12 volt.
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    Am thinking of the CTEK MXS - 5 charger .... "maybe" or maybe not.? (I have the 12 V "smart" charger from Midas ?
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    According to the dealer - recommended 50% - but you can go down to 20% remaining without significant damage PROVIDED that you re-charge asap.
    As in hours - not days!

    The old batteries lasted all those years in spite of being almost totally discharged at times in the bush without alternate charging - only Solar panel and Alternator.
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    "Am thinking of the CTEK MXS - 5 charger .... "maybe" or maybe not.? (I have the 12 V "smart" charger from Midas"

    I would really appreciate comments on this device or suggestions of (affordable) alternatives.
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1949 View Post
    I have just (yesterday) bought two Probe Extreme Deep Cycle 110 AH lead acid maintenance free at R 2 400 ea.
    Linked providing 12 V to my 1 000 W inverter.
    Let's see how that goes ....

    Yes, I would be wary of the fumes inside a caravan - not a nice smell to have hanging around in there.

    It turn out that the two 100 AH I had in there had been bought in 2013 and 2005 respectively, so I guess they served their time - also lead acid maintenance free.
    Was that price including handing old batteries in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1949 View Post
    It turn out that the two 100 AH I had in there had been bought in 2013 and 2005 respectively, so I guess they served their time - also lead acid maintenance free.
    Peter if I am not mistaken, you mention on one stage that you are going to mix one deep cycle with one high cycle (starter batter?).

    Did you ever went that way and if so, how did that serve you in the end?
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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Ubbo View Post
    Personally I would go for a solar gel battery. I've found that the lead acid types in my trailers and caravans have never performed like they should.

    I now have a teardrop trailer with a 200ah slim solar gel battery and it works fantastically.

    If that is too big for you then get the 100ah gel batteries. Prices range for R2k to R3k
    My 2 x 105ah Lead Acid Batteries perform 100% in my Everest Trailer

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    Default Re: Deep cycle battery advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Viertrek View Post
    Peter if I am not mistaken, you mention on one stage that you are going to mix one deep cycle with one high cycle (starter batter?).

    Did you ever went that way and if so, how did that serve you in the end?
    Yes I did.
    They were the two that I have just replaced.
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