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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    I don't like reviewers talking about comfort and handling when it comes to 4x4s. I just need to know that the vehicle is stable enough that I can take myself and the family on a long gravel trip. I've driven vehicles with terrible COG, and they were safe as long as they were driven within their limits. I don't expect a tough 4x4 to do everything well.. Compared to the Everest? I would rather take the Fortuner over a 1k km gravel trip

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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    Quote Originally Posted by JS-V8 View Post
    Fortuner also does not do too well in this test.

    Which leads me to the question, why do people love their Fortuners so much?

    For me , those you tube/car mag reviews done with 5 or 6 new bakkies or SUV, driven by some 'expert' count for very little.

    I always say, give them out to farmers and go back 3 years later and see which one is still going , and which one is parked under the blue gum tree.

    Toyota seem to care for their customers and they have put by far the most investment into Africa, out of all manufacturers.

    Here in Malawi there are only 3 cities worth the name : each of them has its one large branch of the Toyota main dealer.

    Proper dealer, no franchise. You can occasionally see the odd Japanese guy walking around. They train mechanics and technicians, they have an impressive training facility here in BT.

    If you walk in looking for a part for some unknown grey import , instead of laughing at you , they will fill an order form and in 4 weeks you will have the part straight from Japan.

    That's why they have cornered the market in Africa. It's not by chance.

    Their cars might not be the best, by they have worked hard at making people believe they are the best.

    You get out what you put in.

    Edit: like someone used to say on here , forgot who, once those guys are blindfolded they won't know one SUV from the other, purely based on handling.
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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    A heavy Fortuner with softer tires runs well on gravel, a lightly loaded one with hard tires not so much. Let the guys that own them be the judge of what is acceptable.

    How many people who had Fortuners replaced them with another Fortuner? I had 4 (3 derde-4de-derdes en 'n 2.8) in a row over a 10 year period. It was a very pleasant ownership experience.
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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    Good point Blikka, my BIL just replaced his Ford Raptor with a Fortuner...

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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    What were those motor magazine journalists saying about a 4 x 4 SUV's (doesn't matter what brand) handling and it's ability to go over speed bumps back in 1990? They probably complained less than what they do now and you cannot compare current vehicles with then. They need to complain to stay relevant.
    I do not drive a Fortuner but I struggle to believe that it is as bad as the journo says it is.
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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    Whenever I see a Fortuner, I am reminded of this



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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    Francois van Coke en Karen Zoid het n song oor die Fortuner gemaak. "Geen suspensie geen beheer"
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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    Quote Originally Posted by FWM View Post
    Funny thing is....
    A 20+ year old LR Disco 2 uses a ladder frame chassis.
    I never ever heard anybody complain about handling issues on them.

    I think Tunas are too fast for their drivers skills.
    I think they have enough other issues to complain about...

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    Quote Originally Posted by coetzer94 View Post
    I think they have enough other issues to complain about...
    Apparently Toyota Drivers prefer the dusty and rustic look
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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    Wonder how many anti Fortuner guys have actually owned a Fortuner...have mine since 2012 and no complains.
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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    Why would they want to do that?

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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    Then they will know what they are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riekielouw View Post
    Then they will know what they are talking about.
    You say it too kindly , sir.. It should be "then they might stop talking shyte about something they do not know shyte about.."
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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    I drove the 2.8 for a few days.

    Managed to nearly keep it on all 4 wheels the whole time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANDREAS View Post
    Managed to nearly keep it on all 4 wheels the whole time.
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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    I have seen it time and time again that the biggest factor and all these vehicles, bakkies and SUV's, are the tires and the shocks. If we get the Ranger back after a service I have to deflate all the tires again. 0.2 bar makes a massive difference on and off road. The same goes for the shocks. You cant expect them to last 100k anymore yet many people drive them way past that.
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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    Forum trolling. Will it ever end ...

    From whence it comes springs to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gungets Tuft View Post
    Forum trolling. Will it ever end ...

    From whence it comes springs to mind.
    Please try to stay on topic

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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    Quote Originally Posted by tashtego9 View Post
    For me , those you tube/car mag reviews done with 5 or 6 new bakkies or SUV, driven by some 'expert' count for very little.

    I always say, give them out to farmers and go back 3 years later and see which one is still going , and which one is parked under the blue gum tree.

    Toyota seem to care for their customers and they have put by far the most investment into Africa, out of all manufacturers.

    Here in Malawi there are only 3 cities worth the name : each of them has its one large branch of the Toyota main dealer.

    Proper dealer, no franchise. You can occasionally see the odd Japanese guy walking around. They train mechanics and technicians, they have an impressive training facility here in BT.

    If you walk in looking for a part for some unknown grey import , instead of laughing at you , they will fill an order form and in 4 weeks you will have the part straight from Japan.

    That's why they have cornered the market in Africa. It's not by chance.

    Their cars might not be the best, by they have worked hard at making people believe they are the best.

    You get out what you put in.

    Edit: like someone used to say on here , forgot who, once those guys are blindfolded they won't know one SUV from the other, purely based on handling.
    So, the fortuner and Hilux sell in thousands and a few folks are pissed. I've never liked the fortuner, but I perfectly appreciate that it is positioned in that market segment where it's needed and wanted. As a matter of fact, if it wasn't for snobbism and show off mentality, most Prado owners have their needs met in the fortuner

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    Default Re: Fortuna handling - will they ever fix it?

    The handling is all in the eye of the driver really.

    I have had a few SUVs over the last few years, Discos 4 and 5, Jeep grand Cherokee and Fortuner and to be quite frank my current ford Everest is really the best all rounder I have driven.

    Saying that I know people that love the drive of the Tuner and even prefer the old faithful D4D

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