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    Question SA 4x4 Specialists to take on the Aussies?

    Been doing some research on high end conversion specialists that can upgrade a base vehicle to a whole different level.

    Found these guys in Australia that fit the bill: https://www.protouringconcepts.com.au/

    Good vehicle build example here: https://youtu.be/prWjGauwMUw

    They typically chop the back end off LC 200's or 79's, upgrade the chassis and suspension (Jmacx) - and brother, is it an upgrade..., upgrade power train and engines, redo interiors, fit very impressive electrical systems, and lobs on what looks to be one of the coolest tray/chassis based canopies out there on the new back end.

    Can anyone suggest service providers / experts in SA that come close to this? A top end Cruiser 79 conversion looks to be in the region of R2.2M on straight currency conversion, so cheapness not exactly the main criteria.

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    Default Re: SA 4x4 Specialists to take on the Aussies?

    Land Cruiser Heaven Centurion are agents for Norweld trays and get the Redarc stuff too. They do the coil conversion as well on the 79 and Gturbo complete upgrade on the engine side.

    I did the performance and radius arms upgrade with them and no issues at all.
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    Default Re: SA 4x4 Specialists to take on the Aussies?

    There is a company called Arwald Extreme in Brits that does conversions on the cruisers, I have not seen a 200 come out of there yet but they do the standard tray/camper conversion that is so popular.

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    Default Re: SA 4x4 Specialists to take on the Aussies?

    Contact Locklaw here on the forum.
    He have done JMax to some Cruisers and crazy engine upgrades.

    Only thing that bothers me of these type of body conversions like they do on the 200 they all tend to crack at on stage or another. Few seems to get the OEM anti corrosion treatment right. Rust will always be a problem.
    Have seen that on many Meano conversations. Also a panel beater friend that have done his own two Patrols.

    On one of the mines I work on is modified Hilux bakkies converted into station wagons. They are used the for shift change transporters in the pit. Have yet to see one that is rust and crack free on the joints.
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    Default Re: SA 4x4 Specialists to take on the Aussies?

    R and D offroad, Brackenfell. Paul Marsh and Johan, don't know Johans surname. He does awesome work.
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    Default Re: SA 4x4 Specialists to take on the Aussies?

    Quote Originally Posted by grips View Post
    Contact Locklaw here on the forum.
    He have done JMax to some Cruisers and crazy engine upgrades.

    Only thing that bothers me of these type of body conversions like they do on the 200 they all tend to crack at on stage or another. Few seems to get the OEM anti corrosion treatment right. Rust will always be a problem.
    Have seen that on many Meano conversations. Also a panel beater friend that have done his own two Patrols.

    One one of the mines 'n work on is modified Hilux bakkies converted into station wagons. They use the for shift change transporter in the pit. Have yet to see one that is rust and crack free on the joints.
    I honestly very much doubt the Aussie conversions are any better in this regard, at least not the ones I have seen build videos of. The level of detail manufacturers put into paint prep is well beyond the scope of what any panelbeater can achieve, never mind the R&D that goes into pressing and joining panels.

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    Default Re: SA 4x4 Specialists to take on the Aussies?

    From my experience, the big difference between SA and Australia, is that Australians are substantially more 4x4 camping orientated than we are. The range of parts available is massive and many of the tradies that work in these shops are offroaders themselves (and qualified artisans). They take massive pride in detail and finish. I'm not saying they're better than us, it's more a case that they have the time, money and resources to do the job in.

    Parts are no more expensive in Australia as they are here. (I needed to replace a branded axle and learnt that a "walk-in" client in to the same brand supplier as we have in SA (on the identically specced axle), pays about 8% less that I do in SA as an OEM manufacturer.) But their end products will easily sell for double what South Africans are generally willing to pay. (Labour is more expensive, but this does not compute to the massive price difference.) They just have a higher profit expectation, and allow more time to complete the work in.

    I don't know how many times I've been called to manufacture something that another SA producer already makes, with the client saying: " You know what a rip-off this is, they charge R200k (as an example) and I figured the box can't cost more than 40k to make, - you should be able to build this for 80k?

    Australians will complain about quality, but it's rare that they will question the price. They can either afford it, and if not, they'll look at an alternative. At least half of the offroaders are tradesmen and technical persons that understand what's being offered. They respect your workmanship.

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    Default Re: SA 4x4 Specialists to take on the Aussies?

    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Modricky View Post
    Australians will complain about quality, but it's rare that they will question the price. .
    Never understood this, i mean paying $4000 for a set of drawers in a wagon or at the top end paying $150,000 for a luxury offroad caravan. Maybe they make significantly more money

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    Default Re: SA 4x4 Specialists to take on the Aussies?

    Fats forward this video to 29:30 - this 200 is beautiful.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=515cXhHULGY

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    Default Re: SA 4x4 Specialists to take on the Aussies?

    Quote Originally Posted by IanK View Post
    R and D offroad, Brackenfell. Paul Marsh and Johan, don't know Johans surname. He does awesome work.
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