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    Default Intelligent Charger

    Hi guys,

    My dad has need of a charger to maintain his car battery, and I want to buy him one for his birthday.
    I know the optimate brand is good, but is the moto-quip brand any good?
    Its down to one of the below models, obviously the moto-quip is a 9 stage that can handle partially sulphated batteries and has higher amperage so on paper it is the "better option" but is it worth it compared to the optimate?
    https://www.takealot.com/optimate-2-...r/PLID40732676
    https://www.takealot.com/moto-quip-4...r/PLID41598041
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    Default Re: Intelligent Charger

    I reccomend this:

    VICTRON BLUE SMART IP65 5AMP CHARGER – WITH BLUETOOTH
    R1,395.00 at bushpower.co.za
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    Default Re: Intelligent Charger

    Talk to Family_dog on the forum. He sells Benton. I have one and it works well on fixed locations.

    With these power cuts it is handy to have type that remembers the setting when power is lost. If the battery is totally flat intelligent charger may not work on it. It depends on the charger. I have had to use "stupid" charger to wake up the battery. My Victron is able wake up dead.

    Prices for both are more than those you have looked at. Amps on the two looks low, especially on one.

    Just check if he has 17/18 Ah batteries for alarm system or similar. If so select charger that works also on that size.
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    Default Re: Intelligent Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by Dungbeetle View Post
    I reccomend this:

    VICTRON BLUE SMART IP65 5AMP CHARGER – WITH BLUETOOTH
    R1,395.00 at bushpower.co.za
    It really is worth the difference in price.
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    Default Re: Intelligent Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by Jouko View Post
    Talk to Family_dog on the forum. He sells Benton. I have one and it works well on fixed locations.

    With these power cuts it is handy to have type that remembers the setting when power is lost. If the battery is totally flat intelligent charger may not work on it. It depends on the charger. I have had to use "stupid" charger to wake up the battery. My Victron is able wake up dead.

    Prices for both are more than those you have looked at. Amps on the two looks low, especially on one.

    Just check if he has 17/18 Ah batteries for alarm system or similar. If so select charger that works also on that size.
    Just a little info. If you have a battery that is so dead that the charger wont start - Just put another battery in parallel with it for a while to "fool" the charger. After a fairly short while, remove the donor battery. The charger will see the voltage from the donor battery and start charging. Even a 9AH Alarm SLA battery will be fine for this.
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    Default Re: Intelligent Charger

    Go to Midas and get a Prouser 8A for R849 or the 4A for less.
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    Default Re: Intelligent Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    It really is worth the difference in price.
    I’m going to pull the trigger on one of these. Is the 5A enough for a car battery though? Fortuner has a 66Ah battery. Is the 10/15A model not a better bet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtshark View Post
    Go to Midas and get a Prouser 8A for R849 or the 4A for less.
    PSA008 is the only charger I am aware of that has a 2A mode for 7-9AH SLA alarm batteries.

    This is an extremely desirable feature.
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    Default Re: Intelligent Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by bees View Post
    I’m going to pull the trigger on one of these. Is the 5A enough for a car battery though? Fortuner has a 66Ah battery. Is the 10/15A model not a better bet?
    Unless you are quick charging for a camping system or for between twice a day load shedding, the safe and preferred charge current is no more than 10% of the batteries AH rating. So the 5Amp is just about perfect for the Fortuna.

    However, it is nice to have the extra “oomph” for when you are in a hurry, and also for the oh so common 100AH camping setups.
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    Default Intelligent Charger

    Makes sense, thanks! See there’s a 12V/7A model, maybe the better choice, a little more oomph but still within spec for the Fortuners battery
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    Quote Originally Posted by bees View Post
    Makes sense, thanks! See there’s a 12V/7A model, maybe the better choice, a little more oomph but still within spec for the Fortuners battery
    I have been using the same for over 3 years on a battery being cycled every day and numerous guys have bought some from me. One guy has bought 5 over a 2 year period.

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    Default Intelligent Charger

    So I charged the Fortuners battery since last night on 'normal' mode. Car felt like the battery is getting old (now 3 years old), starter sounds lazier than when car was new. This morning the starter sounded about 10% better, not sure if my expectations were too high? Maybe battery is fine and I’m imagining that it was once way better? On the other screen it says charger is in Storage mode and battery is 13.25V

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    Default Re: Intelligent Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    PSA008 is the only charger I am aware of that has a 2A mode for 7-9AH SLA alarm batteries.

    This is an extremely desirable feature.
    I also have the Pro User 8A from Midas, and have one vehicle constantly connected (since lockdown started). Very happy with the product after reading many reviews. Watch out for Midas specials, it's often on at R899
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    Default Re: Intelligent Charger

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Unless you are quick charging for a camping system or for between twice a day load shedding, the safe and preferred charge current is no more than 10% of the batteries AH rating. So the 5Amp is just about perfect for the Fortuna.

    However, it is nice to have the extra “oomph” for when you are in a hurry, and also for the oh so common 100AH camping setups.
    Does the same hold true for LiFePO4 batteries ?

    I see the Victron is rated to charge LiFePO4, I am considering changing from lead acid - mine has recently done it's last trip and is not holding charge.

    I will probably look at a 120Ah battery - so which Victron out of the range is suitable ? (12V: 4/5/7/10/15/25A)

    This is for a camping setup, not home use. Will also be charged with a DC - DC unit plus solar while travelling.
    I just like to use AC when it is available, so the Victron would be permanently mounted in my vehicle..

    Your advice would be greatly appreciated.
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    Default Re: Intelligent Charger

    Go for the Benton BX-2M. Available at SJ Andrews, 41 14th Street, Eastgate Gardens,
    Marlboro, Sandton. Speak with Felicity.[
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