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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    I just priced the Stella C5000XGFJ with Bilimoria and Jacita. Jacita is R3000 cheaper! Incredible!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    I grew up with Penn reels, such as the 49, 49A and 500 Jigmaster.

    I don't have any experience of their 'modern' reels, though.

    Nobody mentioned them. Are they still competitive?
    In my opinion any reel is competitive it generally depends on the user. I grew up in the early 70's with the jig master. Probably caught my heaviest fish with them. lovely reel.

    The difference is weight of reel . casting action as well as sinker weight. In my opinion with a jigmaster a 4 ounce sinker. With a 12ft assassin and grinder using a 3 ounce sinker I will by far out throw the jigmaster. Two different actions though. Generally feel a lighter sinker will lead to better bites which leads off to a whole other discussion.

    Distance coupled with movement of my bait seems to do wonders. Love to hear other people views. Different areas need different rigs. I always watch the locals.They have over the years adapted to the conditions.

    Real intresting discussion and so many variables. I don't play golf so spend most of my
    money on fishing. just love it. My Brother-in-law is certainly rolling his eyes now.

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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    In terms of rods, I prefer Assassin, excellent rods for various applications

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    You do realise I know them very well. Just a bit out of my normal way!



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    I know Stilfishing very well and I happen to pop by them more often than the other s mentioned, although Jacita's sounds a proper option as well.

    Thank you all for the responses. Second time round turned out a bit better but I am a bit overwhelmed to be honest. Seems like a real jungle out there in the fishing equipment world!

    I tend to buy once and then stick with it. But I can I can identify with this scenario, it's pretty much like me and golf equipment!
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    I grew up with Penn reels, such as the 49, 49A and 500 Jigmaster.

    I don't have any experience of their 'modern' reels, though.

    Nobody mentioned them. Are they still competitive?
    Penn Slammer, Battle and Spinfisher grinders are very popular.

    Their multipliers not so much. The Penn multipliers that you do occasionally see are the Squall and Fathom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    I just priced the Stella C5000XGFJ with Bilimoria and Jacita. Jacita is R3000 cheaper! Incredible!
    wow I definitely will Google Jacita. was my price very far off?

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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Still have my Penn 49!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Dold View Post
    Still have my Penn 49!
    Heard a funny story the other day, not the punchline, but part of the story was that you had to own a Penn 49A, "en hy gooi 'n kraainess nog voor jy hom van die bakkie af gehaal het".
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Probably true!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Dold View Post
    Probably true!
    my grandpa had a penn 49. if you can believe the story. Medwana point Transkei. he actually experience a black steenbras run with fish after fish being hauled out with the 49. I would be lying if I told you nylon breaking strain. But he mentioned pulling them out of their holes. some 20kg monsters.
    wish I was around in those days.
    At Beachamwood on Transkei I have farmer freinds who use the 49 at night. cray head and rarely do they bring the blacks in . the smaller 10kg versions just out of their pajamas. so the 49 has its place. still depends on the skill of the fisherman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khakibush View Post
    wow I definitely will Google Jacita. was my price very far off?
    You were spot on with your price, just not at Bilimoria!

    Jacita R8995, Bilimoria R11995
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    I grew up with Penn reels, such as the 49, 49A and 500 Jigmaster.

    I don't have any experience of their 'modern' reels, though.

    Nobody mentioned them. Are they still competitive?
    I have a Penn 49 which I use for fishing geelbek at 20m from a boat. Better than the Grand Wave at that depth and weight of fish. I won't easily use it for rock and surf.
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    I grew up with Penn reels, such as the 49, 49A and 500 Jigmaster.

    I don't have any experience of their 'modern' reels, though.

    Nobody mentioned them. Are they still competitive?
    Short answer - no
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    Default Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    I still have 2 Penn Jigmaster’s .Not a reel for a tournament, at all, but as a travelling reel, hard to beat.

    They are easy to service and repair, and nobody gets heartbroken if they drop down rocks, or get nicked from a campsite or any of the multitude of bad things that happen to good reels while traveling through Southern Africa.
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Pint View Post
    Quite a laugh reading some of the anti grinder comments. Times change guys we dont all fish with flax line and bamboo rods.

    You need to give more info as to your intended target species. We also need more info on the rod you will pair it with. No point getting a 20 000 Shimano and you have a 1-3oz 10ft spinning rod.

    One thing I will say is that if you need to ask about tackle a Stella is almost certainly overkill. These reels are the Rolls Royce of reels and only really make sense if you fish regularly or are targeting tackle busters like GTs, Amber Jacks etc

    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by rechardt View Post
    Agreed

    I bought a Stella 5 years ago, only used it 3 times.... Bitcoin was cheaper
    Lol, I've always wanted one, but will stick to my Stradics for now.

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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    I have been an avid bait caster (centrepin) reel user for rock and surf angling all my life. Usually the Grand Wave and SL 40S Daiwas.

    More and more I see guys using spinning reels (coffee mill type) for rock and surf.

    For the guys in the know, what would be the recommended spinning reel for rock and surf these days?
    I have heard of Shimano Stella but what do the wise ones here say?
    What did you eventually buy?

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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by lionelk View Post
    What did you eventually buy?
    So far nothing! So many different opinions and experiences made me reconsider.

    Also was a bit shocked by the price of a new rod! For my level and frequency of fishing probably a bit of overkill to switch.

    So I guess I will stay with what I've got for the time being.

    Learnt a lot in the process though!
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    So far nothing! So many different opinions and experiences made me reconsider.

    Also was a bit shocked by the price of a new rod! For my level and frequency of fishing probably a bit of overkill to switch.

    So I guess I will stay with what I've got for the time being.

    Learnt a lot in the process though!
    I picked up a rod for bottom fishing. It was a Diawa BG6500, but the reel was under 3k. Another couple of hundred for them to spool it with Braid. We obviously had a pretty short rod as we are using it on a boat, but this rig seems to work a treat.

    This reel seems really nice and works well and smoothly. I believe you get fancier seals and bearings as you move up to the next level? Might well be quite okay for your sort of use, but as mentioned, I pretty much go with what my man at Mias tells me.

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