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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fontuin View Post
    Exactly, even a multiplier..

    What was anti-grinder about what I said?

    The OP hasn't given us any information regarding what he intends to do (other than broadly fish), his SL and Grandwave 40s may be the best tool for the job.
    You never said anything anti grinder. What gave you the impression I was referring to you?

    I'm referring to those who make stupid comments like "real rock and surf anglers use multipliers".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Pint View Post
    You never said anything anti grinder. What gave you the impression I was referring to you?
    You quoted me..

    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Pint View Post
    I'm referring to those who make stupid comments like "real rock and surf anglers use multipliers".
    I wouldn't agree with this... some of the best anglers in the country use grinders.

    There is a false impression though that multipliers are no longer used because of sponsored Youtube videos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishing1 View Post
    You will need a new rod as well fitted with a bionic finger. Not sure what you are targeting though and what size multiplier you are replacing?
    I thought it wise to point out that a bionic finger can be added afterwards although its less hassles if its already installed.
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Thank you to the one or two meaningful posters. As per usual it turned into a pissing contest.

    I should have known better!
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiceman View Post
    I thought it wise to point out that a bionic finger can be added afterwards although its less hassles if its already installed.
    Yes no problem adding it afterwords but a dedicated multiplier rod with trigger winch and guides not suitable for braid sort of negates an expensive spinning reel for me. For me no point in using a spinning reel with mono I would rather use a multiplier then

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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiceman View Post
    I thought it wise to point out that a bionic finger can be added afterwards although its less hassles if its already installed.
    Some guys just cable tie it to the rod.

    The eyes on a multiplier rod are different than for a grinder though. The first few eyes for grinder are a lot bigger, and there are less of them. Also the reel seat tends to be in a different position.

    I know that there are rods that can fish both, not sure how they look, never seen one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    Thank you to the one or two meaningful posters. As per usual it turned into a pissing contest.

    I should have known better!
    If you tell us what tackle you were using and what type of fishing you want to do it doesnt have to turn into a pissing contest
    Eg what rod do you use with grandwave line class sinker size etc. You certainly dont need a Stela to replace a grand wave. A Daiwa bg is a great reel and much cheaper than a stella

    If you want to slap a Stella on to your old multiplier rod and think its going to be nice to fish then you may be pissing a lotof money into the wind
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    If using a multiplier i use a Diana 20. Still need to be stripped by a big fish and it is nice and light with a 11ft 2+1.

    If fishing paddle tail 11ft Diawa rod with a Stella 5000 coffee grinder. It can take the punch when casting in the surf at waist deep. But like all grinders needs to be service every 3 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishing1 View Post
    A Daiwa bg is a great reel and much cheaper than a stella
    Forgot about the Diawa BG, great all rounder. If you're after an unsealed real, you won't go wrong with a BG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    Thank you to the one or two meaningful posters. As per usual it turned into a pissing contest.

    I should have known better!
    Just keep in mind, like the posters said, fishing became very technical in the past twenty odd years.
    To me its quite difficult being taught to fish as an adult by old school guys in an era when braid started being used and coffee grinders used for heavy duty fishing like saltwater fishing.
    My biggest stumbling block is my budget. It makes it actually easy. Just keep struggling with Daiwa SL30 and SL50.
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    I have been an avid bait caster (centrepin) reel user for rock and surf angling all my life. Usually the Grand Wave and SL 40S Daiwas.

    Not to be pedantic but a baitcaster/ multiplier is not a centre pin reel.

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    More and more I see guys using spinning reels (coffee mill type) for rock and surf.

    Yes, advances over the last decade have made for more durable, stronger spinning reels, suitable for heavy duty saltwater fishing. Braided line played a huge part in this development as it was now possible to spool enough line onto a spinning reel to make it a viable alternative to the standard multiplier reel. Ease of use being the major drawcard.

    Another overlooked feature of modern spinning reels are the drag systems. These have improved tremendously not only in the amount of drag generated but also smoothness of the drag. A whole lot of the money you pay is going to be for the drag technology in the reel you choose.

    For the guys in the know, what would be the recommended spinning reel for rock and surf these days?
    I have heard of Shimano Stella but what do the wise ones here say?
    If your budget can stomach it, then the Stella is the benchmark you cannot go wrong with.

    Alternatives:
    Shimano Twin Power
    Shimano Saragosa
    Penn Torque 2
    Penn Slammer 3
    Penn Conflict long cast
    Daiwa Saltiga
    Daiwa Saltist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    Thank you to the one or two meaningful posters. As per usual it turned into a pissing contest.

    I should have known better!
    To be fair, you didn't give a whole lot of info to go on. No budget, target species, weight of tackle or areas where you fish. Further to this you do realise you will have to buy a new rod, capable of handling braid, if switching from multiplier to spinning reel, you will need to purchase braid, line that can cost several hundreds of rands and be ruined by the twisting imparted through a spinning reel if not spooled correctly.

    There are a lot of changes, (some very expensive but maybe that doesn't bother you, we don't know), you will have to make so it might be fair to weigh up the different factors such as how serious you are about rock/ surf fishing, how much time you realistically spend doing it and whether a change from what you know is worth it when everything is weighed up.
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Fish haven't changed. Marketing has however. Was away the weekend and saw the PBs with old rods and Penn 500s doing better than the ones with all the mod cons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    I have been an avid bait caster (centrepin) reel user for rock and surf angling all my life. Usually the Grand Wave and SL 40S Daiwas.

    More and more I see guys using spinning reels (coffee mill type) for rock and surf.

    For the guys in the know, what would be the recommended spinning reel for rock and surf these days?
    I have heard of Shimano Stella but what do the wise ones here say?
    Francois ek het n Daiwa BG 50 en 60. Gebruik hulle meeste op die boot en daar werk hulle baie harder as van die kant af, want jy vang baie meer vis op die boot. Ek het eers met twee cheapies begin, maar hulle het nie gehou nie(op boot).

    Vir van die kant af is hulle ook baie goed. Die grootste voordeel vir my is dat jy baie "ligter" kan hengel met braid. Sy strome en wind trek nie so sterk op jou lyn nie en ipv 6oz sinkers kan ek 4oz sinkers gooi.

    Ek stel voor dat jy eers saam met iemand gaan wat so hengel en self probeer voor jy koop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZuluCowboy View Post
    Fish haven't changed. Marketing has however. Was away the weekend and saw the PBs with old rods and Penn 500s doing better than the ones with all the mod cons.
    That is how we roll. My Penn must be close to 50 years old, got a few bits missing, but still get bait on water (maybe not as far as the old days) and retrieve whatever happens to be on the other end. For your normal surf fishing, grinders just works better imho.

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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    I predominantly fish at the Namibian Coast.

    Albeit for galjoen, steenbras or kabeljou, I use a Daiwa sealine and Blue Marlin rod (5 piece). Not the most expensive gear (nor by far the best), but it gets the job done. I just cannot justify a 20k reel and rod setup for 20 days a year of fishing.

    Depending on the surf, the type of fish I target at the coast and bait requirements, I can change tips on my rod.

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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    I have been an avid bait caster (centrepin) reel user for rock and surf angling all my life. Usually the Grand Wave and SL 40S Daiwas.

    More and more I see guys using spinning reels (coffee mill type) for rock and surf.

    For the guys in the know, what would be the recommended spinning reel for rock and surf these days?
    I have heard of Shimano Stella but what do the wise ones here say?
    Francois you won't go wrong with a Daiwa BG, good value for money reels that will outlive you. The internet will give you all the info you need to decide which size will work for you.

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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    I have been an avid bait caster (centrepin) reel user for rock and surf angling all my life. Usually the Grand Wave and SL 40S Daiwas.

    More and more I see guys using spinning reels (coffee mill type) for rock and surf.

    For the guys in the know, what would be the recommended spinning reel for rock and surf these days?
    I have heard of Shimano Stella but what do the wise ones here say?
    It very much depends on how often you fish and how seriously you take your fishing. I am a big Shimano fan and use the Saragossa for my competitive angling needs, this is mainly non eds and larger fish and it is a 20 000 size reel which is quite large. I also own a Daiwa Saltist, smaller non eds and larger eds, and make use of the new Rovex Big Boss 3 for the Galjoen, Hotties and other Scratching fish.

    Stellas are great but the cost is for me a non starter. remember the line that goes on the reels costs as much a a mid level/entry level reel. You also need to change the rod you use as the braided line used on the grinders has zero stretch so the rod used is much softer to compensate for the directness of the line.

    Enjoy the shopping, its almost as lekka as the fishing!

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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    I have been an avid bait caster (centrepin) reel user for rock and surf angling all my life. Usually the Grand Wave and SL 40S Daiwas.

    More and more I see guys using spinning reels (coffee mill type) for rock and surf.

    For the guys in the know, what would be the recommended spinning reel for rock and surf these days?
    I have heard of Shimano Stella but what do the wise ones here say?
    Wow lots of info here
    Francis, what fish will you mostly be targeting (edibles / inedibles)?
    How often will you use it?
    Budget?
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Francois it depends on species targeted I think, as some others mentioned already. I enjoy my multiplier (Shimano Torium 30) when using live bait or big baits to target bigger species. I also enjoy my grinders, the Shimano Exage 10000fc and the newer Shimano Sedona 8000. They are not the Stella, but enough for me who fish not so often.

    When you decide on a reel and want to compare prices, contact Gani's angling world in Witbank. Ask to speak to Hussain. They courier also.

    Regards

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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Considering Francois has never returned to tell us what he intends targeting I think this whole thread was just an excuse for Francois to tell us he is buying a Stella


    JK Francois!

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