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    Default Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    I have been an avid bait caster (centrepin) reel user for rock and surf angling all my life. Usually the Grand Wave and SL 40S Daiwas.

    More and more I see guys using spinning reels (coffee mill type) for rock and surf.

    For the guys in the know, what would be the recommended spinning reel for rock and surf these days?
    I have heard of Shimano Stella but what do the wise ones here say?
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Are you wanting to spin or purely bait fish with it? Do you have a budget? The Stella is great but very expensive.
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Travisty View Post
    Are you wanting to spin or purely bait fish with it? Do you have a budget? The Stella is great but very expensive.
    I want to use it as an angling reel
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Stella is the best, agreed. I am a Penn fan personally, have the Penn Slammer and Battle reels, great bang for my buck!
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Real rock anglers use multiplyers.

    I grew up with Penn reels, later supplemented them with Abu reels.

    The latest Penn, Daiwa & Shimano reels are nice.

    Modern design and manufacturing tolerances make then much better than the old reels.
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    First off, why you changing to a grinder? Your Multipliers will out last grinders by decades and for far less money.

    As far as grinders go, it depends on what you want to do...

    If you're fishing every second weekend for big Sharks and Rays and you're wading banks so that the reel has to go under water, Stella (R 15000) may make some sense.

    If you're fishing twice a year, I'd go for an R800 Okuma Ceymar (not sealed) or similar, seal the bearings with grease and make sure you give it a good service (clean) when you get home.

    I don't see the point of the Stella, Shimano Spehros SW (R 3200), Penn Spinfisher (R 3400) and others at that price point are good, sealed reels. Penn Slammers are used extensively to catch big fish under difficult conditions here in the Eastern Cape at R 4300).
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Also check out the daiwa magsealed range,very nice reels for the money.
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    when I am on a rock or pier and a koffie-grinder arrives

    i make myself fatter

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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by dieselwa View Post
    Also check out the daiwa magsealed range,very nice reels for the money.
    I have a Daiwa BG Mag Sealed 4000 (R 3200). Great reel. The problem is when it comes time for service or repair, you have to send it to the distributor for repair if the Mag Sealing has to be disturbed in any way.

    Mine is on it's way to Kingfisher at the moment, if they can't provide me with an affordable bottle of mag oil, I wouldn't buy a mag sealed reel again, or recommend one.

    Unless you know of an affordable supply of mag oil?

    Allan Hawk, who is a renowned reviewer of fishing reels considers the Daiwa Saltiga to be the perfect reel, https://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/20STG.html, at R 23000 (that's 3 zeros yes) I would hope so.
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    I want to use it as an angling reel
    Then buy a Stella, it should cover you for everything.

    If you target sharks or rays then a 4000 with 12lbs drag will be useless.

    If you wanting to spin then a faster retrieve would be better.

    If you want to use it 10 times a year and cast 50m you wouldn't need a R20000 reel.

    The Daiwa Saltist 6000 is a good versatile reel, has 33lbs drag and decent size spool for around R5000.
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    You will need a new rod as well fitted with a bionic finger. Not sure what you are targeting though and what size multiplier you are replacing?

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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishing1 View Post
    You will need a new rod as well fitted with a bionic finger. Not sure what you are targeting though and what size multiplier you are replacing?
    Isn't the bionic finger related to the use of braid?
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiceman View Post
    Isn't the bionic finger related to the use of braid?
    It is, but if you're going to a grinder in the salt there is little point in not changing to braid.

    Grinders have become more popular in salt because the thinner braid can be fished on them, grinders don't cast thick line well, or have very good line capacity relative to their size.
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quite a laugh reading some of the anti grinder comments. Times change guys we dont all fish with flax line and bamboo rods.

    You need to give more info as to your intended target species. We also need more info on the rod you will pair it with. No point getting a 20 000 Shimano and you have a 1-3oz 10ft spinning rod.

    One thing I will say is that if you need to ask about tackle a Stella is almost certainly overkill. These reels are the Rolls Royce of reels and only really make sense if you fish regularly or are targeting tackle busters like GTs, Amber Jacks etc

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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiceman View Post
    Isn't the bionic finger related to the use of braid?
    Yes but you can use it with mono as well. Makes casting heavy rigs doable with a grinder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Pint View Post
    Quite a laugh reading some of the anti grinder comments. Times change guys we dont all fish with flax line and bamboo rods.
    No... but many of us still fish with multipliers.. I often fish some areas (spinning in the surf with my grinder) where there are fisherman who fish every day, almost all of them use multipliers. (bait fisherman)

    The only advantage that a grinder has over a multiplier is that it is easier to use. More tolerance for error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fontuin View Post
    No... but many of us still fish with multipliers.. I often fish some areas (spinning in the surf with my grinder) where there are fisherman who fish every day, almost all of them use multipliers. (bait fisherman)

    The only advantage that a grinder has over a multiplier is that it is easier to use. More tolerance for error.
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    Real rock anglers use multiplyers.

    I grew up with Penn reels, later supplemented them with Abu reels.

    The latest Penn, Daiwa & Shimano reels are nice.

    Modern design and manufacturing tolerances make then much better than the old reels.
    These are the comments I'm referring to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fontuin View Post
    No... but many of us still fish with multipliers.. I often fish some areas (spinning in the surf with my grinder) where there are fisherman who fish every day, almost all of them use multipliers. (bait fisherman)

    The only advantage that a grinder has over a multiplier is that it is easier to use. More tolerance for error.
    Add to this that technology hasn't stood still with regard to multipliers. I fished for years with a 70's vintage Penn No.155 Beach Master that I got for free and rebuilt as a teenager in St.7. It is a great reel that never let me down. I even upgraded the bakelite spool to aluminium and later the drag washers to carbontex to bring it up to a more modern standard.

    Then a few years ago I bought a Penn Fathom FTH30. It doubled the retrieve ratio and added at least 25% in casting distance. This in a solid metal frame that doesn't suffer from binding under load due to flexing. These modern reels are not only incredibly strong but also much slicker in operation, have better breaking systems to minimise backlash, and drags smoother than a baby's bottom, all from a mid tier multiplier.
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    Default Re: Which spinning reel for rock and surf angling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Pint View Post
    These are the comments I'm referring to.

    Every tool has its time and place
    Exactly, even a multiplier..

    What was anti-grinder about what I said?

    The OP hasn't given us any information regarding what he intends to do (other than broadly fish), his SL and Grandwave 40s may be the best tool for the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koebelwagen View Post
    Add to this that technology hasn't stood still with regard to multipliers. I fished for years with a 70's vintage Penn No.155 Beach Master that I got for free and rebuilt as a teenager in St.7. It is a great reel that never let me down. I even upgraded the bakelite spool to aluminium and later the drag washers to carbontex to bring it up to a more modern standard.

    Then a few years ago I bought a Penn Fathom FTH30. It doubled the retrieve ratio and added at least 25% in casting distance. This in a solid metal frame that doesn't suffer from binding under load due to flexing. These modern reels are not only incredibly strong but also much slicker in operation, have better breaking systems to minimise backlash, and drags smoother than a baby's bottom, all from a mid tier multiplier.
    Correct, multipliers have come a long way.

    The Abu Garcia Blue Yonder as an example, is a very different beast to a Penn 500 Jigmaster.

    Braking technology has improved dramatically. Magforce Z, Magtrax, VBS, DC..., a combination of centrifugal and magnetic breaking...

    So if set up properly overwinds are very unlikely even on the longest of casts.
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