CCTV camera advise needed

[Dirk]

Based on post 1, I would definitely not go analog...

[DC Polokwane]

For vehicle registration numbers the camera placement is more important than the resolution, 1080p and up should do the trick.

Camera placement remains vital!

You will see (or not ) that most shopping centers, security installations, secure housing complexes and toll gates all have a dedicated camera at the entrance, normally about headlight height and positioned perpendicular to the approaching traffic just for vehicle number plates.

a Descent camera will then also capture images of the occupants.

With most normal systems you need to decide whether you want to monitor movement or identify people/vehicles. Both are not always possible.

[lizardalpha]

Your right but at least the search could be faster to track them down with a proper image to start of from

Hahaha, you can take a robber to the police station and he will still walk around the very next day.

I have a camera system at home as well, but it is purely used to be able to see what is going on around my house, instead of having to wonder or go outside should I hear a noise.

[Gungets Tuft]

Turns out I suddenly need something too. Intruders in my property last night, broke into the granny flat which we are renovating and stole tools. Bosch power drill, Bosch 18v cordless drill, toolbox with arbitrary tool, Mastercraft socket set. Probably R15k all in. Right now I am ready to harvest some organs of passers by to pay for the tools and the CCTV system.

[rat]

Assuming the purpose of the expense and trouble of CCTV gear is a successful arrest and prosecution, what use is the standard receding image of some criminal's shoulder-blades, or even a registration plate? Worthless. Ask the keen salesman to produce a typical scene, recorded by his 'de luxe' equipment in typical conditions. The footage must be easily accessible, playable with commonly available lap tops and speakers, and including the ability to produce easily recognisable, clear stills of the gook's face. The installer must also accept the posible need to attend court, to explain the reliability of his device, and how its data was safely downloaded and tamper-free. Otherwise, you are playing

[supersunbird]

Turns out I suddenly need something too. Intruders in my property last night, broke into the granny flat which we are renovating and stole tools. Bosch power drill, Bosch 18v cordless drill, toolbox with arbitrary tool, Mastercraft socket set. Probably R15k all in. Right now I am ready to harvest some organs of passers by to pay for the tools and the CCTV system.

CCTV is usefull after getting intrution detection stuff sorted, stuff like electric fence (primary purpose is perimeter alarm), dogs, yard beams, bypass resistant motor gate and/or whatever else to alert you, so you can then check what is happening from safety of home, unless it's a smart CCTV system that send alerts to phone when seeing a human when it is armed, something like https://foresight-security.co.za.

I have 22 active cameras around my house, so I do believe in the use of CCTV, but got that after having with at least 1 intrution detection system.

Assuming the purpose of the expense and trouble of CCTV gear is a successful arrest and prosecution, what use is the standard receding image of some criminal's shoulder-blades, or even a registration plate? Worthless. Ask the keen salesman to produce a typical scene, recorded by his 'de luxe' equipment in typical conditions. The footage must be easily accessible, playable with commonly available lap tops and speakers, and including the ability to produce easily recognisable, clear stills of the gook's face. The installer must also accept the posible need to attend court, to explain the reliability of his device, and how its data was safely downloaded and tamper-free. Otherwise, you are playing

Agree, what the imagine shows is enough for a lookout, white Audi A3. These guys change number plates all the time. There is a rarish make of double cab pestering the east of Pretoria with daytime break-ins. For some reason, even with that information, they have not been aprehended.

[Willem01]

And so they hit the house behind me early this morning and I still sit with my finger in my a@# and have not done anything yet...So what entry level system do I get,,,my yard is not that big in distance to monitor from the house wall up to the fences maybe 3 m max ..as I have an alarm system in place but no cameras.

[staalwol]

I like the Hikvision systems, not expensive and for low cost cameras the image and night vision is very good.

[supersunbird]

And so they hit the house behind me early this morning and I still sit with my finger in my a@# and have not done anything yet...So what entry level system do I get,,,my yard is not that big in distance to monitor from the house wall up to the fences maybe 3 m max ..as I have an alarm system in place but no cameras.

Esquire have these in stock (with the 2TB hard drive, without hard drive it's R 3 859.00):

[supersunbird]

Hello all, my friends house just get robbed by 4 armed gunmen, luckily nobody was at home and so no injuries, he does have a armed reaction security unit that was called out, but within 5 min the robbers were in and out and got away.
As per attached image this footage was from a neighbours house and it help sweet F@#$all ,nada niks from bad quality low spec camera.

Please give me some advice for what spec camera is needed that could capture a proper image where you could at least read the registration number when footage are playback....

Dont want to buy shares in the market just looking for a decent quality camera.

About the quality, what do you want to see? The number plate has a very short lifespan of usefulness.

Anyway, that Audi S3 hit my street (2 houses down, across the road) last Sunday at 13:40 after driving up and down their favourite street to hit a bit.

[Willem01]

Like mentioned in post#25,,if not done properly I am playing,,, maybe I should just add xtra beams around the house to secure the outside parameter and connect it to the alarm and if the intruder does try to come in the alarm will wake the whole neighborhood

[supersunbird]

Like mentioned in post#25,,if not done properly I am playing,,, maybe I should just add xtra beams around the house to secure the outside parameter and connect it to the alarm and if the intruder does try to come in the alarm will wake the whole neighborhood

If you want to see every detail of the criminal in UHD/4K, then it will cost you much more than that system. So what is your budget?

If you want to see whether a person is in your yard or what type of car is parked outside, that would be a sufficient system.

[supersunbird]

Like mentioned in post#25,,if not done properly I am playing,,, maybe I should just add xtra beams around the house to secure the outside parameter and connect it to the alarm and if the intruder does try to come in the alarm will wake the whole neighborhood

If you you want it to alert you to a humans presence then look at this:
https://foresight-security.co.za.

My mom is home all day and checks on the CCTV* on her tablet what is going on in the yard, why are the dogs barking, that the motor gate was forgotted open, where is the hooting car (these criminals are known to hoot to try to determine if someone is home, if someone responds they make up a story about looking for a domestic and gives a random name (unless the person is foolish enough to open the gate I guess) , happened in my area the other day, that same car later tired to break in in Waterkloof). The other night she even saw someone had left the sliding door open (with the key inside so a criminal could have opened the security gate easily) due to the blinds moving in the wind and could alert me to come close it.

*CCTV more like the one from Esquire, an HD Analogue system, easy to DIY system, not an IP camera CCTV system, not a a smart CCTV system like from Foresight. I can track my dogs in their section of the yard, I can track the movement of cats in the driveway, so I will surely see if a person moves around.

[Flagster]

Don't try to overkill it.

You just want to see what is happening around your house in the middle of the night, when the alarm is triggered, and have recordings to go back to.

Your budget will decide how fancy you "need" to go.
Reading number plates you will get from a 2MP AHD camera, if the car is stationary and close enough to the camera, otherwise get a 40m verifocal camera and focus it to a specific distance (+-10m from camera) and you will be able to read it a bit further.

NOW, if you want to read a number plate of a car driving past your house, for that camera you need a totally separate budget.

Just my 2c

[supersunbird]

Hello all, my friends house just get robbed by 4 armed gunmen, luckily nobody was at home and so no injuries, he does have a armed reaction security unit that was called out, but within 5 min the robbers were in and out and got away.
As per attached image this footage was from a neighbours house and it help sweet F@#$all ,nada niks from bad quality low spec camera.

Please give me some advice for what spec camera is needed that could capture a proper image where you could at least read the registration number when footage are playback....

Dont want to buy shares in the market just looking for a decent quality camera.

They have been caught:
https://rekord.co.za/374737/bullets-...eed-car-chase/

[Willem01]

I got myself one of these cameras..https://www.avico.pro/products/hikvi...81d52baf&_ss=r

Before final setup this was the picture quality as per attachment 1 for the night, Now still setting it up and found the best suitable place as per attachment 2, I found that the wire was to short for where I want to install it so I got another 12m in total length the wire is now 32m, all in conduit fixed to a palm tree in a bird house

I dont have a picture for night but it is much worse and there is a lot of pixilation and the day image's is not the same as before I have joined the cables.....I first used the bnc joint for the bnc connectors and thought that it could be that for the bad display so I cut it off and solder joined the 2 cables but still I could not see a difference in quality, did I stuff up the cables? is the cable to long,,or is the video signal to weak, what must I do to fix this imagery problem.....Oh and is the camera position to high up at about 3.5m

[Flagster]

Camera height should be fine if you can see what you want to see.

Are you using Coaxial cable? If yes then 32m is not too long at all.

On what size screen are you viewing the camera feed? Remember, it's a 2MP analogue camera so don't expect miracles. It will look like Lego on your 65" TV

Have you got another camera to try there?

Can you connect the camera in question to a shorter cable just to test?

[Engel]

My goto cameras are now 4mp network Dahua units. As an installer we have great backup and great quality.

If you set it up right you use push notifications so it start acting like beams. The PTZ also follow you. Problem is a camera start at about R3000 to as much money as you have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87n-mjIdiWM

New Tioc cameras. works extremely well

[Engel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGoLRWsTMdg

Another demo. Future of CCTV security

[Willem01]

Camera height should be fine if you can see what you want to see.

Are you using Coaxial cable? If yes then 32m is not too long at all.

​yes RG59

On what size screen are you viewing the camera feed? Remember, it's a 2MP analogue camera so don't expect miracles. It will look like Lego on your 65" TV

​Small 19"
Have you got another camera to try there?

​will test another time

Can you connect the camera in question to a shorter cable just to test?

​moved it to another camera that is only 10m away

Attached are images with and without the night light,,from the previous position I dont know if it must be the amount of street light available that has given me the bad quality

Oh another question regarding the night light is it advisable to let it be on for the whole duration of the night,,,will it not damage the led's