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    I have a LC 200 SW 2010 model that comes standard with two batteries.
    Does it need both batteries to start?
    I dont want to try in case I damage something expensive!
    Please advise.
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    I was told by someone today that the Landcruiser 200 has its two batteries in series for the starter.
    So the starter is 24 V and the rest of the electrics are 12 V.
    Does anyone know if this is correct?

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    Default Re: LC 200 dead batteries

    Quote Originally Posted by RonS View Post
    I was told by someone today that the Landcruiser 200 has its two batteries in series for the starter.
    So the starter is 24 V and the rest of the electrics are 12 V.
    Does anyone know if this is correct?
    Batteries are in parallel.
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    My understanding is that those amps are required to kick that big motor. Iíve never measured it, but my gut tells me it is 12v. The vehicle will start with a single battery if one dies, with difficulty, but it needs those extra amps.
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    Wow interesting thread. Do you'd need two cars then to jump start a 200 as you'd need to boost both batteries up to voltage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GKE View Post
    Wow interesting thread. Do you'd need two cars then to jump start a 200 as you'd need to boost both batteries up to voltage?
    That's exactly my point. You can jump start a LC200 with one vehicle and with decent jumper cables (not the P&P ones). If it was 24v you would really struggle. Have jumped a number of them with my vehicle idling.
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    Default Re: LC 200 dead batteries

    OK thanks. So the starter is 12 V, also according to the circuit diagram from Grips above.
    Just tried to start with one battery but only got a click.
    Maybe a faulty battery.

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    The previous two batteries of my L Cruiser 200 SW died when I did not use the vehicle for a few months.
    Today I bought two new Raylite batteries (Expensive!) but will still only use the vehicle once every 6 weeks.
    I do not want to lose these batteries again so want to put them on a holding charge while the vehicle stands for 6 weeks.
    From the diagram sent by Grips above the batteries are in parallel.
    To put these two parallel batteries on a charger, where do I connect the charger cables?
    I was told by the battery supplier today that you cannot connect a charger to charge the two batteries simultaneously, you have to charge one at a time and change over say once a week.
    I do not understand why I cannot just connect the charger cables to the positive and negative of a single battery and it will keep both batteries charged as they are in parallel?
    Can anyone please advise.
    I have a 4 A charger I bought at Midas which has a holding charge setting.
    Thanks, Ron

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    The two batteries are permanently connected in parallel and therefore you only need to connect the charger to one of the two batteries, no need to charge each one on its own.
    I do the same with my LC200 for many years!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonS View Post
    The previous two batteries of my L Cruiser 200 SW died when I did not use the vehicle for a few months.
    Today I bought two new Raylite batteries (Expensive!) but will still only use the vehicle once every 6 weeks.
    I do not want to lose these batteries again so want to put them on a holding charge while the vehicle stands for 6 weeks.
    From the diagram sent by Grips above the batteries are in parallel.
    To put these two parallel batteries on a charger, where do I connect the charger cables?
    I was told by the battery supplier today that you cannot connect a charger to charge the two batteries simultaneously, you have to charge one at a time and change over say once a week.
    I do not understand why I cannot just connect the charger cables to the positive and negative of a single battery and it will keep both batteries charged as they are in parallel?
    Can anyone please advise.
    I have a 4 A charger I bought at Midas which has a holding charge setting.
    Thanks, Ron
    Probably if you would use a smart charger, it wouldn't be able to diagnose the two batteries individually and programs like de-sulfatation wouldn't work.
    But it should charge the batteries fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonS View Post
    ......
    I was told by the battery supplier today that you cannot connect a charger to charge the two batteries simultaneously......
    That salesman should stick to selling spanners....
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    A Smart Charger should only be connected to one battery at a time, in order to work correctly.

    But... having said that, my 1500W Pure Sine Wave Inverter here at home uses two Raylite 105A/Hr batteries in parallel (not the way I would have liked it, but that is all that I could get at the time) and for the first 4 years I used a Benton BX2 (7A) charger connected to them both, they kept the charge. I then replaced the BX2 with a BX-5 (25A) charger to keep them fully charged 4-5 years ago, still using the same batteries and they work for me during the 4-hour load-shedding periods.


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    Default Re: LC 200 dead batteries

    Thanks for the replies so far.
    As mentioned I do not have a smart charger but just a normal 4A charger bought from Midas a few years ago. So not a very powerful or sophisticated charger. See pic.
    It has a float (maintenance?) setting which I think is intended to keep a single battery at full charge when not being used.
    What I would like to know is will this float charge keep both batteries (connected in parallel) charged when not being used?
    I am often away for weeks at a time so cannot charge one at a time.
    Advice appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonS View Post
    Thanks for the replies so far.
    As mentioned I do not have a smart charger but just a normal 4A charger bought from Midas a few years ago. So not a very powerful or sophisticated charger. See pic.
    It has a float (maintenance?) setting which I think is intended to keep a single battery at full charge when not being used.
    What I would like to know is will this float charge keep both batteries (connected in parallel) charged when not being used?
    I am often away for weeks at a time so cannot charge one at a time.
    Advice appreciated.
    Those work fine. Keep it on float charge .
    That's the whole idea behind float charge . Keeps a constant 13.5 V

    That will keep the battery full without boiling out all the electrolyte

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    Default Re: LC 200 dead batteries

    Thanks Tiaan.
    Will this charger on "Float charge" keep two batteries in parallel at full charge?
    That is what worries me!

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    I have had no replies to my question above regarding two batteries in parallel so will try it and see.
    Hope I dont destroy them again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonS View Post
    I have had no replies to my question above regarding two batteries in parallel so will try it and see.
    Hope I dont destroy them again!
    Yes it will keep them fully charged.

    Unless you have a parasitic load that exceeds the current rating of the charger😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonS View Post
    I have had no replies to my question above regarding two batteries in parallel so will try it and see.
    Hope I dont destroy them again!
    No problem using it on both.
    I don't know the charger but normally they will work fine.

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    Default Re: LC 200 dead batteries

    While it will keep them charged, it would be prudent to measure the voltage across them when the charger is connected and they are fully charged. Should not be higher than about 13.1V.


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