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    Default Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    Hi All

    This topic might have been covered somewhere....?

    I traded my 2017 Ranger Super cab in for the new Super cab. This model has a power socket in the load bin (rear left side).

    Now my question is this: The NL dual battery system in the previous ranger required me to install a 16mm2 set of cables running from the main battery to the rear battery box.

    Can I discard this (I actually took it out of the 2017 Ranger) and tap off this power outlet? I will then connect to the NL unit directly to the power socket.

    My concern is whether the power socket will suffice in supplying power for charging the NL box.

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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    It will work perfectly, but you'll probably have a fair amount of voltage drop. Best to have a dedicated battery pack in the back with its own charging solution.
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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
    It will work....
    No it will not....
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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    If it is the same as the new navara's one. I was advised against it because of wire thickness.

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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    I would plug a DC-DC charger into the plug and your NL to that.

    The plug is rated at 20A,
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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    Just remember your 12V supply is not constant, and only works when your truck is idling and a short time thereafter.
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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    I am using mine to run my NL , works perfectly. As Chris pointed out only power while ignition on.

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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    Correct, as a short term solution it's fine - I run my fridge off it while driving and then over to 220v at a campsite, but I wouldn't run all my meat etc for a long trip from that plug. Then you'd need a dedicated battery with charging solution.

    I still want to modify the source to be permanently live. Then you can run a dc-dc charger off it to charge a isolated battery in the back. (or just charge the battery via a solar panel and avoid all vehicle cabling)
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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    Quote Originally Posted by George View Post
    Correct, as a short term solution it's fine - I run my fridge off it while driving and then over to 220v at a campsite, but I wouldn't run all my meat etc for a long trip from that plug. Then you'd need a dedicated battery with charging solution.

    I still want to modify the source to be permanently live. Then you can run a dc-dc charger off it to charge a isolated battery in the back. (or just charge the battery via a solar panel and avoid all vehicle cabling)
    My question is how thick is those wires running from the front.
    Running a fridge while driving yes but charging a battery🤔

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    The Auto manufacturers use max 4mm^2 wire for hose 20Amp outlets in the back

    Use that for battery charging ? Me ? not a chance...
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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    Quote Originally Posted by Dungbeetle View Post
    The Auto manufacturers use max 4mm^2 wire for hose 20Amp outlets in the back

    Use that for battery charging ? Me ? not a chance...
    I tested my navara back lighter socket on my grey nl box with build in solenoid.
    It worked but the what if factor played around in my head when I looked at the wires.

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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    Quote Originally Posted by fatbike View Post
    My question is how thick is those wires running from the front.
    Running a fridge while driving yes but charging a battery��
    Probably 4mm. I wouldn't charge via that cable (Ac-dc). Use it to power a dc-dc charger
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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    Thanks all for the replies.

    So the NL has its own built in solenoid, etc. So if the power switches off with ignition off then that will also be ok.

    I did not think that Ford would install oversize wiring - so I was also thinking about the voltage drop and the requirement of a DC to DC booster charger such as the C-Tek DS250. But at more than R5k, I believe the re-installation of my old 16mm2 cable and fuse setup would suffice as it worked perfectly in the previous Ranger.

    I can spend the R5k on something else needed.....

    Thanks for the attention!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by angelblooms View Post
    Thanks all for the replies.

    So the NL has its own built in solenoid, etc. So if the power switches off with ignition off then that will also be ok.

    I did not think that Ford would install oversize wiring - so I was also thinking about the voltage drop and the requirement of a DC to DC booster charger such as the C-Tek DS250. But at more than R5k, I believe the re-installation of my old 16mm2 cable and fuse setup would suffice as it worked perfectly in the previous Ranger.

    I can spend the R5k on something else needed.....

    Thanks for the attention!!!
    Agreed. It works and you have it allready.
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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    Appoligies for highjacking your thread, but I'm new to the Ranger family and need some expert advice. I acquired a used 2019 model Ford Ranger Fx4 D/c P/u, basically a XLT with a few additional extras. I read your ranger has a 12v plug in the load bin on the leftside. I noticed mine has a hole there, and some sort of missing plug or cover. I do need a 12v outlet to run my camper freezer from the bin. My question is do my model have a port or do i need to lay cable for a 12v plug in the bin. Nothing about extra aux 12v in the bin area in the manual. I do have 2 front and 1 at the back inside the cab. I've attached some pic.
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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    Quote Originally Posted by L0n3i200n View Post
    Appoligies for highjacking your thread, but I'm new to the Ranger family and need some expert advice. I acquired a used 2019 model Ford Ranger Fx4 D/c P/u, basically a XLT with a few additional extras. I read your ranger has a 12v plug in the load bin on the leftside. I noticed mine has a hole there, and some sort of missing plug or cover. I do need a 12v outlet to run my camper freezer from the bin. My question is do my model have a port or do i need to lay cable for a 12v plug in the bin. Nothing about extra aux 12v in the bin area in the manual. I do have 2 front and 1 at the back inside the cab. I've attached some pic.
    You have the tub liner that comes with the Wildtrak but without the power connection.

    You will need 2 parts from Ford, 1) the harness (the plug for the harness is behind your left rear wheel) and then the outlet which connects in the hole of the tub liner.

    The part number from Ford for the harness is: AB39 19B966 AD , since i don't have the tub liner i used a regular 12v cigarette outlet instead of the square ford outlet, you will be able to get that part number from them.

    i attach 2 pictures for you, 1) the outlet, Ford can use this to get the part number for you, 2) picture of the harness i took
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    Default Re: Power Socket in new Ranger load bin

    In my new Raptor the 12V and 230V outlets are good for 15 amp for the 12 V and 1.7 amp for the 230. If I calculate correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlGrobler View Post
    In my new Raptor the 12V and 230V outlets are good for 15 amp for the 12 V and 1.7 amp for the 230. If I calculate correctly.
    Trying to find out when the 230v is active. With the stupid uk point I find myself that I could only start playing with it while camping now and can not get power at the point

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