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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    These challenges will be set up to try and garner the abilities of every different vehicle and it's systems, but it will be done with the goal in mind of limiting the risk as much as possible...

    I have always had the mindset, that any one can conquer an obstacle, but not everyone will be doing the next one...

    And with that in mind...The trick is not to see who has the biggest tollie, the trick is to get everyone back to the next event.
    Herein lies the crux of the matter. I believe most people who buy 4x4 vehicles do so with the idea of having a vehicle that can take you places without having to worry about the condition of the roads i.e. sand, mud, and sometimes cross axle conditions because of deterioration of the road surface.
    The idea is more overlanding as opposed to testing the vehicles abilities on a serious offroad trail.

    When it comes to grade 5 obstacles in my mind it means driving through extremely deep ruts and doing rock crawling where you need lots of ground clearance, specialised tyres, rock sliders and having to pick your lines as to not cause serious damage to your vehicle.

    So for someone like me to test my vehicle on a reasonable 4x4 excursion where I would be testing my vehicle's abilities for my real world application, with a minimal chance of damage is great!

    If I wanted to have a vehicle to do "serious" off roading with, I would buy me an old Cruiser or Patrol and fit it with all the necessary kit and then take on the technical trails.

    Guys keep up the good work and I look forward to the next event!
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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Point taken. Thought it would be interesting to push the limits.
    However enjoy and have fun
    It is not what you buy its what you build.

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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    So as an event organizer (From my point of view), how do you get point 1,2, and 3 above in one sentence, with conviction, so as to let the participants feel confident to join the outing?

    How do you convince the owner of a brand new R1.5bar vehicle to come and take a chance (on some challenging conditions in competition with a brand new R1 bar twin-locked Rubi?

    I for one, would just giggle nervously and scroll past the thread if it was my new Defender....

    The point of these events, is to get the guys willing to venture off road in the first place, in a controlled, damage restricting environment.
    Most of us (I hope) knows that there is more to off roading than just traction...

    But to test the other areas of off roading means clearances will be tested first, and lack of clearances will result in one thing only. Damage
    Well said Andrew. And with the great organising and camaraderie shown by all those who were there, I have no doubt the future events will be just as well supported

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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Saw this video on TFL truck today and thought it was applicable to this discussion.

    https://youtu.be/coerK0DsffM


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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by Commander View Post
    Saw this video on TFL truck today and thought it was applicable to this discussion.

    https://youtu.be/coerK0DsffM
    Based on the video not a difficult choice.
    ASPW on the Jeep Grand Cherokee: "This vehicle is phenomenal... I have never seen a traction control system working quite like this..."


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