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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by JJJ View Post
    Oops, missed that. The low range on the Haval and the Eaton rear difflock, that is.

    See here: https://www.cars.co.za/motoring_news...20test%20track.

    So now it is only average...😏
    Haha yes, it is a body on frame with low range, rear diff lock and terrain management (Snow, Ice, Mud/Trail, Sand, Auto) with Torque on Demand transfer case.
    I didn't use difflock at all on the day. Tyres are the stock HT, but took them down to 1.4 bar.

    I came from a Ranger, and this was the first time offroading in an AWD and Auto gearbox.
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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by rechardt View Post
    NB# It will not be a brand bashing competition. ( NOR A DAY TO PROVE WHO IS BETTER THAN WHO OR WHO'S VEHICLE IS BETTER)
    Post #1.

    Do you believe in the tooth fairy as well?

    The last few pages were discussions on brands and models not equipment (DL vs TC).
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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    Post #1.

    Do you believe in the tooth fairy as well?

    The last few pages were discussions on brands and models not equipment (DL vs TC).
    Well a bit of good natured ribbing is always part of the day. As a former landrover driver, you learn to develop a thick skin anyway. I was super impressed with the Disco3 v8 piloted by an all female crew that kept up with everyone and they had a baby on board.

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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by stephenplumb View Post
    I was super impressed with the Disco3 v8 piloted by an all female crew that kept up with everyone and they had a baby on board.
    Yeah they made all the dudes who take their off-roading so seriously look ridiculous!
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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    Post #1.

    Do you believe in the tooth fairy as well?

    The last few pages were discussions on brands and models not equipment (DL vs TC).
    I think to be honest, the bottom line is all the vehicles completed the course except for some AWD softroaders, so nobody had a trail type vehicle that could not get to the other side, and that is what is important in the end.

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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    Post #1.

    Do you believe in the tooth fairy as well?

    The last few pages were discussions on brands and models not equipment (DL vs TC).
    No, I did not pick this up at all. Posters are genuinely interested in the other vehicles' prowess. So they ask questions and learn.

    We have our stirring specialists, but we know who they are and therefore enjoy their sarky comments.

    There was not one person on Sunday who did not feel pleased for someone else getting something right.

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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by Hooly View Post
    Yeah they made all the dudes who take their off-roading so seriously look ridiculous!
    To make it ever worse when I went to SWAMBO after the first axle twister obstacle to determine in what terrain mode she was.(explained it all beforehand)
    She forgot to change it, was in normal mode with no CL of DL
    just to show you, traction control worked amazingly
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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by JJJ View Post
    No, I did not pick this up at all. Posters are genuinely interested in the other vehicles' prowess. So they ask questions and learn.

    We have our stirring specialists, but we know who they are and therefore enjoy their sarky comments.

    There was not one person on Sunday who did not feel pleased for someone else getting something right.

    Join us next time.
    Very well said. I certainly did not pick up any form of "my vehicle is better than yours" conversation. It was a great, fun day. The biggest cheers I heard were for the Subarus fighting well above their weight...
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    Default March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    Post #1.

    Do you believe in the tooth fairy as well?

    The last few pages were discussions on brands and models not equipment (DL vs TC).
    I fail to see the relevance to the day..
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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by JJJ View Post
    No, I did not pick this up at all. Posters are genuinely interested in the other vehicles' prowess. So they ask questions and learn.

    We have our stirring specialists, but we know who they are and therefore enjoy their sarky comments.

    There was not one person on Sunday who did not feel pleased for someone else getting something right.

    Join us next time.
    Don’t worry it’s normal for Fourie to try and sow descent

    Why he needs to .. fark knows
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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    The link below is for photo of the run on sunday.
    it will be active for 1 week only.

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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    Don’t worry it’s normal for Fourie to try and sow descent

    Why he needs to .. fark knows
    If asking a question is sowing discent, then I am guilty.

    I just pointed out that the topic as well as the first post seems to have been forgotten.

    I was actually looking forward to see the outcome of

    "Difflocks vs Traction Control"

    FFS
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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Thanks for the pics!!
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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    If asking a question is sowing discent, then I am guilty.

    I just pointed out that the topic as well as the first post seems to have been forgotten.

    I was actually looking forward to see the outcome of

    "Difflocks vs Traction Control"

    FFS
    Sure, but it's also nice to reflect on the individual vehicles. For example, that little orange subara always impress me. As for the Volvo's, I've had numerous discussions with xc90 about the capabilities vs the Freelander 2. It's not a pissing contest when we discuss it, it is genuine interest.

    And granted, the more hardcore offroaders like making a bit of fun of the softies, but it's all in good spirit when events like these occur.
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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    If asking a question is sowing discent, then I am guilty.

    I just pointed out that the topic as well as the first post seems to have been forgotten.

    I was actually looking forward to see the outcome of

    "Difflocks vs Traction Control"

    FFS
    4e, please see post 218. There where so many factors to take into account with 28 vehicles....
    If anyone could have done better, please put up your hand next time.
    There were vehicles with std lockers / no lockers / autolockers / traction control / 35" tyres / 30" tyres... I am sure one or 2 vehicles drove themselves.

    That is why I feel to conclude the discussion between Difflock and T/C we should have max 8 vehicles and a closer variety..... a build up Hummer, LC80 against a Subaru XV is not gonna give any good indication.

    But the day was fun and the crowd excellent.

    My conclusion Is that TC if well understood and used works with better control up to about level 3,5 grade obstacle, but after that D/L takes over. - Just my personal opinion.........

    Thanks again Andrew and Rechard for something well organized.
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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Oh dear.
    but I guess, looking at the result, diff lock wins

    edit: I type too slow. The above two posts beat me
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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenZone View Post
    The link below is for photo of the run on sunday.
    it will be active for 1 week only.

    PHOTOS
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    Not a user friendly link

    I cannot use it
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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Hey....the Hummer is stock...

    Ok 35s... But TC and lockers are stock!

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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    Quote Originally Posted by renier_c View Post
    Hey....the Hummer is stock...

    Ok 35s... But TC and lockers are stock!
    I did not include it as modified
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    Default Re: March Difflock vs Traction Control brekkie Run

    On the day... Yes...TC is always on. And will activate as soon as a wheel spin..

    Where as lockers was only activated once traction was lost...

    So yes. It was a disadvantage if lockers was to be switched on manually.

    But it was a great day!

    I know that with 3 lockers on the H3 i can tacle any obsticle. Slow and controlled.
    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    Oh dear.
    but I guess, looking at the result, diff lock wins

    edit: I type too slow. The above two posts beat me

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