For that budget Land Cruiser 200 but anything Land Cruiser is very over priced at this stage.
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As per subject, what would you choose as your overlander if you had say ~R1mil to spend...
The only caveat being you can only have one vehicle - so this will be your daily drive too...
Initial options in no particular order are:
1. New Defender stock
2. New 2,8 Fortuner kittled out aftermarket
3. New Prado
4. New..ish Land Cruiser Series 200
5. New Land Cruiser 76 series
6. New land Cruiser 79 Double Cab
7. Hilux kitted out aftermarket
8. Ranger/Everest kitted out aftermarket
7. Any other l missed or you would have as your choice?
This is purely a fun exercise to see what the general consensus would be...nothing more nothing less
I am torn between a Kitted Fortuner, Defender and LC 76 .....
For that budget Land Cruiser 200 but anything Land Cruiser is very over priced at this stage.
D4 but with 18” tyres.
VW T6 Transporter 4 motion.
Clear winner for overlanding purposes if onlt Southern Africa
If further into Africa - LC 76
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F250
lc 79
Depends very much on how you travel, where you want to go and how many people have to fit into in the vehicle.
1996 Patrol 4.2SGL with lots of stuff to make it heavier and thus increase traction?
Define your idea of overlanding?
Taking the family to KNP? Travel Southern Africa? Do months long trips throughout Africa and other continents?
These days any road trip is called overlanding by some, as long as some portion of gravel road is involved...
2012 FJ Cruiser
1983 FJ60 Landcruiser
D4 for southern Africa
6.
Ford Ranger 3.0Tdci Super Cab 4x4(workshop whore)
How long do you want to keep the chosen vehicle for this purpose?
Depends on your definition of overlanding.
A. Serious overlanding in extreme territory: Kaudom, CKGR, KTFP, Namib trails, Level 4 to 5 stuff. Will you have back-up vehicles will be in your party etc.
I will chose one only three vehicles for their robustness: (in alphabetical order - not to offend anybody). Due to better dustproof properties and possibly longer overlanding trips, I will opt for a SUV/station wagon type vehicle.
Base you choice on:
If you have a good agent/workshop nearby that specialises on that make of vehicle. (you don't want to travel 200 or 300 km for every service!!)
Ground clearance of at least 280mm or more (possibly with 33 inch tyres) on 15, 16 or 17 inch rims.
1. Land Rover defender (previous model)
2. Nissan Patrol (preferably 4.2 Turbo Diesel but any other model will also be OK)
3. Toyota Land Cruiser (excl Prado), possibly FJ, preferably solid front axle model.
B. Normal dirt road touring: Normal dirt roads, occasional 4x4 track up to level 3 stuff
Any local normal 4x4 bakkie or SUV, they are all fairly capable and none are really all that bad.
It will also depend on your space passenger requirements and once again base you choice on:
If you have a good agent/workshop nearby that specialises on that make of vehicle. (you don't want to travel 200 or 300 km for every service!!)
Ground clearance of at least 250mm or more (possibly with 31 or 32 inch tyres) on 15, 16 or 17 inch rims.
Possibly also the new Defender, although a brand new vehicle, you will feel sorry for in the bush (bush rash)
"between a Kitted Fortuner, Defender and LC 76 ....."
The Fortuner is a more versatile (daily use) choice of the 3, but it is not nearly in the same class as the other two in real serious overlanding offroad conditions
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Malcolm van Coller - retired 2013 but remained in Jhb area for now, maybe will look at moving WC way, Robertson or Wellington type of town, once the wife retires.
2011 Nissan Pathfinder 2,5 CDi LE Manual (with front Lokka) - My Platkar...
2008 Nissan Patrol 3.0 TDi GL with front Lokka (Use it mainly for Safari business)
2003 Bushwakka Shorti (with 160 H/Moon Stargazer RTT and 100 lt water tanks)
Ex 1999 Nissan Terrano 2.7 TDi
Ex 2011 Conqueror Supra II
Ex 1995 GQ Patrol GLX 3 speed Auto
Ex 1984 Nissan Safari 2.8 Station wagon with 5 speed conversion,
Ex 1995 Sani 3.0 V6 Exec
Ex 1994 Venture 2200 with lock diff (Company vehicle).
Many 4x4s in National Service (Landies, Jeeps, Willys, Bedfords, Unimogs and Buffels)
Nobody mentioned Amarok yet.........😇😇😇😇
Jaco Nell
The 1996 Patrol I already own.
The R900k saved on the purchase price could finance several incredibly epic trips!
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1996 Patrol 4.2SGL with lots of stuff to make it heavier and thus increase traction?
I spent 35 days Travelling from Southern Cape via Kgalagadi, Namibia up to Etosha then to Sesfontein down to Spitzkoppe, Swakop through Namib Naukluft crossed into Richtersveld at Sendelingsdrift through Richtersveld NP then down West coast from Hondeklip Baai to Koekenaap and back home in an old T4 Syncro Kombi. Best overland trip we have even done, vehicle wise.
The kombi has a bed and Engel Feezer, Dual battery etc. I had extra spare on the roofrack but did not need it.
No Rooftop tents to climb up and down. No ground tent to pitch.
We were going to go even further in 2020 but Covid put a stop.
I also have a LC 76 which is a brilliant vehicle but if you dont want to do hectic 4x4 routes/Tracks etc it is just overkill.
the Kombi is quite economical and just a pleasure to drive.
Some pics of our trip. We did about 15 nights just wild camping.
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