How to remove iron fallout from paint?

[Skylark]

What is available to get iron industrial fallout particles off vehicle paintwork?

Ideally easily available, I found some options online but ideally I want to buy something this morning to clean my paint. Only thing I could find locally is the Meguiars iron off product but at R700 a bottle no thanks. I'm in Cape Town southern suburbs so there are a few auto spares places around.

[Heinz Modricky]

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Citric acid helps precipitation of iron by ammonia by forming a complex with it. – Ammonia + Citric Acid + Thioglycolic Acid + Iron reacts to form ferric thioglycolate, which is red/purple in colour (Hence the ‘bleeding’ effect.). Thioglycolic acid helps to oxidize iron (II) to iron (III). – Accelerates oxidation process turning wustite (Mineral found in iron ore) into ferric oxide (rust) very quickly. This is a controlled corrosion process, or essentially, acid pickling. Ammonia to make solution alkaline – Adding an alkaline to the thioglycolic acid makes it very nearly pH-neutral in solution (In the bottle), until it contacts iron when an acidic reaction will start to take place, lowering the pH of the product in use.
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[Pieterk]

Burnishing compound from you nearest automotive paint supplier and a bit of elbow grease.

[Olyfboer]

What is available to get iron industrial fallout particles off vehicle paintwork?

Ideally easily available, I found some options online but ideally I want to buy something this morning to clean my paint. Only thing I could find locally is the Meguiars iron off product but at R700 a bottle no thanks. I'm in Cape Town southern suburbs so there area few auto spares places around.

Were you parked downwind from a shot blasting operation in a dockyard? Beware of parking downwind of ship hull spray painting too. Luckily my car was polished and the paint dots came off easily but the windscreen and other windows were a mission.

[Jeeves]

https://www.crazydetailer.co.za/prod...-revolt-500ml/

[Skylark]

Burnishing compound from you nearest automotive paint supplier and a bit of elbow grease.

Ideally you don't want to polish it off or use mechanical means other than a clay bar, the iron particles will score the paint in the process.

Were you parked downwind from a shot blasting operation in a dockyard? Beware of parking downwind of ship hull spray painting too. Luckily my car was polished and the paint dots came off easily but the windscreen and other windows were a mission.

It was parked in a shipyard, it's mainly iron particles but quite heavy in some areas.

I found some good stuff for the job from Liqui Moly but can only collect it on monday, I was hoping to do the job this weekend.

[Skylark]

It turns out just about any good quality wheel cleaner that has the iron removing additives(they typically change colour when reacting with the iron to either red or purple) can be used all over a vehicle.

Some options are Meguiars Ultimate All Wheel Cleaner, expensive at R350 for 700ml: https://www.meguiars.co.za/product/u...wheel-cleaner/

The one I'm getting which is very well priced is Liqui Moly Rim Cleaner (1L) R195 at Builders:
https://www.builders.co.za/Automotiv...00000000720392
https://shop.liqui-moly.co.za/rim-cleaner-435602.html

Naturally it being Builders their website shows 6 in stock and when I went to the store none in stock, so Monday when I'm on my rounds I have to drive out a bit further to get some.

[JohnnoK]

Naturally it being Builders their website shows 6 in stock and when I went to the store none in stock, so Monday when I'm on my rounds I have to drive out a bit further to get some.

Try MAKRO and Game, part of the same Group, lots of cross-over.

[Skylark]

Try MAKRO and Game, part of the same Group, lots of cross-over.

I looked, not listed on either of their websites

[Skylark]

Another possibility is Karcher Rim Cleaner R169 for 500ml:
https://www.makro.co.za/hardware-aut...00000269393_EA
Although it says it changes colour when it's done I'm not 100% sure it has the iron removing properties

[Brownpine]

I operate a side line vehicle detailing business from home, located in the southern suburbs, Cape Town. You can use either an Iron X contaminant remover... (spray onto the paint and then the iron particles normally turn purple after a few minutes) or... we often make use of the clay bar method to remove all paint surface contaminants... we then polish the paint the remove light scratches and swirls and then seal it with either with a Meguairs pro sealer which lasts for around 4 months or we offer imported Ethos ceramic wax sealer from the States, which should last for around 8 to 10months on your paints surface, provided it is washed with a high quality PH balanced car shampoo.. feel free to message me if you don’t come right.

[cainslie]

I operate a side line vehicle detailing business from home, located in the southern suburbs, Cape Town. You can use either an Iron X contaminant remover... (spray onto the paint and then the iron particles normally turn purple after a few minutes) or... we often make use of the clay bar method to remove all paint surface contaminants... we then polish the paint the remove light scratches and swirls and then seal it with either with a Meguairs pro sealer which lasts for around 4 months or we offer imported Ethos ceramic wax sealer from the States, which should last for around 8 to 10months on your paints surface, provided it is washed with a high quality PH balanced car shampoo.. feel free to message me if you don’t come right.

I'm not in your area, but what would a rough cost for this be?

I have quite a bit of grinding fallout on my car. I've used an entire bottle of Angel Wax Fallout Remover. It went red and I waited a good 5 minutes before giving it a wash. Better, but still quite a bit of iron in the paint. Next stop is one of the decent detailers around here, but I'd like to know what kind of rough cost I'm in for first.

[Skylark]

Luckily I remembered GoldWagen does a lot of the Liqui Moly range and it turns out they have just started stocking the Liqui Moly Rim Cleaner (1L) and its cheaper than Builders at R175.

It does work but you need to apply it multiple times and agitate it, it still doesn't remove all of it, you need to finish with a clay bar unfortunately.

[Skylark]

I'm not in your area, but what would a rough cost for this be?

I have quite a bit of grinding fallout on my car. I've used an entire bottle of Angel Wax Fallout Remover. It went red and I waited a good 5 minutes before giving it a wash. Better, but still quite a bit of iron in the paint. Next stop is one of the decent detailers around here, but I'd like to know what kind of rough cost I'm in for first.

Get a clay bar(around R150 per bar, one will do a full vehicle and then some, just don't drop it) and do it yourself if you have the time and inclination.
It's quite an enjoyable task seeing how clean you paint looks and how nice it comes out, its like a giant eraser that you run all over the paint and it picks up any contamination incl iron fallout.

[Sawdust]

Due to a brain fart I managed to get some bad industrial fall out on my white platkar.
Some polish masked it slightly but the embedded metal was clearly visible in daylight.

Got this clay bar kit from Start my car..

I bought 2 kits and some hand cleaner to get free shipping. With very little elbow grease the surface is smoother than a baby's bottom. I sealed it with Meguires wax afterwards.

I would highly recommend this.

https://www.startmycar.co.za/product...=1103590064153

[Skylark]

I got a chance today to use the Liqui Moly Rim Cleaner. I first rinsed the car, let it dry slightly and sprayed the rim cleaner on, spreading it with a wash brush, I did the whole car and then left it for 5mins.
Then I took a microfire wash mitt and gently washed the panels that were now drenched in Rim Cleaner, to further agitate and loosen the iron fall out.

The end result was a noticeable difference, it's a white car and it looked extra nice and sparkly white afterwards, all but the deeply embedded iron fallout was removed.
I then cleaned the remaining fall out with a clay bar and the end result looked fantastic!

The 1L bottle will go a long way, I drenched an entire hatchback incl wheels and the bottle seemed barely dented.

If anyone reading this has never used a clay bar before I highly recommend it, it makes your paint pop like its brand new, very satisfying results.
A clay bar also makes you realise that without using one your paint is never actually "clean", it's really the foundation of paint maintenance, even a top notch polish can't achieve what a clay bar can.

[SBSP]

To add to the claybar advice.

ChrisFix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFXfSBR5Q9w

[Sawdust]

I got a chance today to use the Liqui Moly Rim Cleaner. I first rinsed the car, let it dry slightly and sprayed the rim cleaner on, spreading it with a wash brush, I did the whole car and then left it for 5mins.
Then I took a microfire wash mitt and gently washed the panels that were now drenched in Rim Cleaner, to further agitate and loosen the iron fall out.

The end result was a noticeable difference, it's a white car and it looked extra nice and sparkly white afterwards, all but the deeply embedded iron fallout was removed.
I then cleaned the remaining fall out with a clay bar and the end result looked fantastic!

The 1L bottle will go a long way, I drenched an entire hatchback incl wheels and the bottle seemed barely dented.

If anyone reading this has never used a clay bar before I highly recommend it, it makes your paint pop like its brand new, very satisfying results.
A clay bar also makes you realise that without using one your paint is never actually "clean", it's really the foundation of paint maintenance, even a top notch polish can't achieve what a clay bar can.

Just seal the paint again with a good wax.

[dirtshark]

It's worth spending a bit and getting some Turtle Wax to polish and seal.....you won't be sorry!!

[Skylark]

It's worth spending a bit and getting some Turtle Wax to polish and seal.....you won't be sorry!!

Why Turtle wax in particular?

I have been using Sonax and Meguiars wax, I use the spray wax as it's so easy to apply, I just apply it more often.