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    Default Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Well, there's a bit of sanity that has prevailed.

    https://www.iol.co.za/capetimes/news...5-b9b342f38dfa

    So if you have any traffic fines for your trailer, including parking fines, they are now invalid.
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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Soooo, when going on holiday, put your trailer's plates on your car and floor it?

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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Quote Originally Posted by kamanya View Post
    Well, there's a bit of sanity that has prevailed.

    https://www.iol.co.za/capetimes/news...5-b9b342f38dfa

    So if you have any traffic fines for your trailer, including parking fines, they are now invalid.
    Thanks so much, this is really helpful information!
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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toxxyc View Post
    Soooo, when going on holiday, put your trailer's plates on your car and floor it?
    That's an arrest offence. Fraud and subverting the ends of justice.

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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Quote Originally Posted by Olyfboer View Post
    That's an arrest offence. Fraud and subverting the ends of justice.
    Yea, so, we didn't know that, thanks Cpn Obvious

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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    So does this mean that a self driving car is also exempt as no one is manipulating the controls driving the car?
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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Do the police in Botswana and Zim know this?
    Just asking from previous experiences along the roads ..
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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Doesn't make sense to me. How else is one supposed to identify the towing vehicle from the rear, if not via the trailer's registration?
    Where is the the situation of that trailer hire company any different than that of a car hire company?
    Once someone rents a trailer, they take responsibility for it, just like with rental cars.

    What about a trailer being illegally parked without a tow vehicle attached?


    In essence, this means if you tow a trailer, your "offending" vehicle can't be identified from the rear.
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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Quote Originally Posted by HugoNotte View Post
    Doesn't make sense to me. How else is one supposed to identify the towing vehicle from the rear, if not via the trailer's registration?
    Where is the the situation of that trailer hire company any different than that of a car hire company?
    Once someone rents a trailer, they take responsibility for it, just like with rental cars.

    What about a trailer being illegally parked without a tow vehicle attached?


    In essence, this means if you tow a trailer, your "offending" vehicle can't be identified from the rear.
    The confusion/clarity comes from what is written in the law. The law states, “vehicle driven ......”
    A trailer or caravan is drawn and thus not conforming to the law for moving offences.
    A parked or unroadworthy drawn vehicle can still be issued with a fine for which the owner is responsible.

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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Quote Originally Posted by Olyfboer View Post
    That's an arrest offence. Fraud and subverting the ends of justice.
    Only if you're caught.
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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rustie View Post
    Yea, so, we didn't know that, thanks Cpn Obvious
    Why the ad hominem attack? How am I supposed to know he didn't know that?

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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spiceman View Post
    Only if you're caught.
    True. Same for murder. It's the intent that matters.

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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    They need to attach a separate form with fine wrt trailer fines that asks for the trailer owners details and whom the trailer was borrowed out to.
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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Quote Originally Posted by HugoNotte View Post
    Doesn't make sense to me. How else is one supposed to identify the towing vehicle from the rear, if not via the trailer's registration?
    Where is the the situation of that trailer hire company any different than that of a car hire company?
    Once someone rents a trailer, they take responsibility for it, just like with rental cars.

    What about a trailer being illegally parked without a tow vehicle attached?


    In essence, this means if you tow a trailer, your "offending" vehicle can't be identified from the rear.
    According to the latest judgement, identifying the driven car and driven cars driver is not the owner of the trailers problem.

    If the driven car is identified it's the owner of the cars problem to clear his/her name if they were not the driver.

    Simple.
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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Quote Originally Posted by kamanya View Post
    According to the latest judgement, identifying the driven car and driven cars driver is not the owner of the trailers problem.

    If the driven car is identified it's the owner of the cars problem to clear his/her name if they were not the driver.

    Simple.
    Absolutely , as far as I am concerned even this “ owner of a car “ is responsible for any fines is a lot of bull ( if they don’t pull me off and identify the driver ) there should be no fines , a money making racket
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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1949 View Post
    Do the police in Botswana and Zim know this?
    Just asking from previous experiences along the roads ..
    This judgement pertains to South Africa, you’d be foolish to expect another country to work according to our laws.
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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    You see, this is the South African problem. Lack of honest good citizenship.
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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Easy. If you make shitty laws, you get shitty verdicts. Gov need to get on ball with new tech.
    Who reviews these things. Nobody. Too busy catching a surfer.

    Reasonable expectation and assumptions means nothing when writing a law.

    Gov needs to wake up.
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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Quote Originally Posted by HugoNotte View Post
    Doesn't make sense to me. How else is one supposed to identify the towing vehicle from the rear, if not via the trailer's registration?
    Where is the the situation of that trailer hire company any different than that of a car hire company?
    Once someone rents a trailer, they take responsibility for it, just like with rental cars.

    What about a trailer being illegally parked without a tow vehicle attached?


    In essence, this means if you tow a trailer, your "offending" vehicle can't be identified from the rear.
    In the UK, trailers don't have number plates. You carry a spare plate and attach it to the trailer for the purposes of ID etc, and the trailer is considered part and parcel of the vehicle in it's entirety.
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    Default Re: Trailers can't get traffic fines.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnoK View Post
    In the UK, trailers don't have number plates. You carry a spare plate and attach it to the trailer for the purposes of ID etc, and the trailer is considered part and parcel of the vehicle in it's entirety.
    That makes sense again. You can easily identify and trace the tow vehicle.
    But in the RSA scenario, all you see is the trailer's registration.
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