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    Quote Originally Posted by Pieterk View Post
    Isuzu. More reliable and rides better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rean Meyer View Post
    I'm sorry but comparing the price between a reputable company and some dealer in Jhb cbd is not sensible for any vehicle. I would not touch that Ranger with a 10 foot pole. Those cbd dealers are known for cooking the km's, and while 90000km for a 3 year old vehicle seems fair, I just wont trust spending my money there.

    My 10c...

    Just looking at the Google reviews for Oz Motors I would not deal with them, see some complaints about accident damaged vehicles sold to people.
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    Why don't you request the VIN numbers for both and try obtaining the complete warranty and repair history from Isuzu and Ford. Do this for a few of both brands, whether you commit or not. You might be surprised. I did this when I was looking for a 4x4 D/C before deciding on my Hilux. That is what kept me away from the Ranger.
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    Go drive each vehicle on gravel and over a steep pass. The sooz just does it better. Torque at low revs and steadfast handling is the Isuzu's trump card here... but that's just my opinion

    My brother has the 2.2 DC, and it certainly trumps the KB when it comes to interior looks and cabin noise. I dislike the gearbox on these too, and constantly having to change gears when the going is slow.

    Go see for yourself. You'll know what you want when you pick up the differences.

    If all else fails get a 4.8 Patrol and a small trailer for skoonma then you don't need a bakkie

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    Quote Originally Posted by A1ex View Post
    Where the Isuzu is slightly more expensive it makes up for in engine capacity and will come with extras the 2.2 ranger wont have. PDC and cruise control etc...

    Assuming you 4x4 the extra engine size will be nice on the Suz. Re-sale value also generally better on the Isuzu's.

    The Ranger will have better consumption, the engine is quieter and feels less bakkie-ish.

    Also take into account general condition of the vehicle, how many owners it has had, and if from a dealer what sort of guarantee they can offer.

    Are you looking at Auto or manual?
    2015 XLS (pre-facelift) has cruise control and plenty of bells and whistles. Without looking up the Isuzu, I would suggest the Ford has more than the Isuzu (I own a 2015 2.2 XLS).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hennie84 View Post
    Can't put a price on reliability
    I have read all these posts about the isuzu being more reliable that the 2.2 Ford...
    Based on what exactly is this determination made?
    Not looking for a fight, genuinely curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustie View Post
    I have read all these posts about the isuzu being more reliable that the 2.2 Ford...
    Based on what exactly is this determination made?
    Not looking for a fight, genuinely curious.
    You can just do a search on the Ford side, there's plenty of info regarding issues with Rangers. You can also have a look at Ozzie forums regarding Ranger problems. Isuzu's are known for their reliability, 2.5 and 3L.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustie View Post
    I have read all these posts about the isuzu being more reliable that the 2.2 Ford...
    Based on what exactly is this determination made?
    Not looking for a fight, genuinely curious.
    Isuzu hold the 72 hour endurance record in SA.
    To the OP:
    I owned a new 2015 3.0 4x4 Isuzu in Serengeti spec. I bought it because of the reliable engine (supposed to be my retirement vehicle) and sold it because that reliable engine was simply too "agricultural" for me. Please consider that my previous car was a 3.8V6 petrol Pajero, so I was used to a silky smooth engine and equally smooth auto transmission.
    Take both for a proper test drive and decide for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hennie84 View Post
    Can't put a price on reliability
    Ox wagons must be fantastically expensive then..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    Ox wagons must be fantastically expensive then..

    Cracked myself there.
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    Gents please note that I am not discrediting any of these two vehicles. Purely replying on past and present experience. I had two Isuzu's a 2lt 2008 petrol and one 2.5lt 2011 diesel model. Both were new when purchased. Both were single cab models and used for work purposes. No problems with both of these models exceeding 180K kilometers when sold. In 2015 I purchased a new 2.2lt Ford Ranger XLS.

    Two week's ago the Ranger just started miss firing when I changed gears or when idling. The power train warning light sporadically lit up. A P0089 fault code was diagnosed by Ford. This indicated a too high pressure in the common rail. Ford indicated that either the Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor or the Suction Control Valve or the Injectors were faulty. After changing the Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor as well as the Power Flow Sensor the fault still persisted.

    I had no options but to book the vehicle in at our local Auto Diesel Specialist. After some intensive fault finding the fault was diagnosed as a faulty Injector Pump. Apparently the previous generation Ford's suffered from a common fault where a spring inside the fuel pump operating the pressure release plungers broke. This is apparently a rather common problem when 150000km is exceeded on these models. My Ford is currently standing on 155650k.

    The cost spend to date is R5850.00 for the Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor including the Common Rail as you cannot purchase the Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor on its own. R 2850.00 for the Suction Control Valve. Still waiting for the final amount to have the Injector Pump replaced. Estimated cost will be in the region of R18000.00

    Gents to reiterate. Both Isuzu and Ford are good vehicles. It's just with the previous model Ford's there might be a potential problem when you intend exceeding 150k kilometers. This was information that I received from various people that I spoke to.

    Attach is a more detailed description regarding the fault with the Ranger and how difficult is is to pinpoint this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustie View Post
    I have read all these posts about the isuzu being more reliable that the 2.2 Ford...
    Based on what exactly is this determination made?
    Not looking for a fight, genuinely curious.
    The reason I myself will make a claim that Isuzu is reliable, is based solely on my own experience, all the way back to when my grandfather was fetching me from school in his beloved KB, since then my dad has owned 4 Isuzu's and myself one.

    Speaking to fellow Isuzu owners and their experiences, chatting to the independent mechanic who has a 4x4 workshop servicing all the brands, including my bakkie and the fact that I know my Kb300's D-teq motor has been around for over 12 years. They have only added new turbos and gearboxes, tweaked a few things and so on, on the newer models.

    Hence they've had a lot of time to iron out any niggles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hennie84 View Post
    You can just do a search on the Ford side, there's plenty of info regarding issues with Rangers. You can also have a look at Ozzie forums regarding Ranger problems. Isuzu's are known for their reliability, 2.5 and 3L.
    No need to look anywhere else, just search this forum......lots of info from owners with issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rean Meyer View Post
    I'm sorry but comparing the price between a reputable company and some dealer in Jhb cbd is not sensible for any vehicle. I would not touch that Ranger with a 10 foot pole. Those cbd dealers are known for cooking the km's, and while 90000km for a 3 year old vehicle seems fair, I just wont trust spending my money there.

    My 10c...
    I bought a ford ranger v6 in Jewel/Joule Street, which my mate said, and i putting this politely, was a brave decision. I had just moved up to JHB and found it on the auto trader. I bought it for 145k and put 120000km on it in 3 years and sold it for 99k so it cost me 15k/year.

    I was either lucky or stupid, or stupidly lucky, but that remains my best bang for buck vehicle.

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    Default Re: Isuzu or Ranger

    The newest one on the radar https://www.autotrader.co.za/car-for...er/xl/25853221. Really struggling to get an Isuzu with decent km that fits into our budget 😕

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nube View Post
    The newest one on the radar https://www.autotrader.co.za/car-for...er/xl/25853221. Really struggling to get an Isuzu with decent km that fits into our budget
    If I can suggest something, it is to rather see if you can get at least a 2016 facelift model. Unless you have driven both the pre-facelift and facelift model, you will not understand the difference between the 2.

    You probably know it but the XL Plus model comes standard with a dual battery system and it has a higher safety rating than a similar standard 2.2. The interior floor trim is also vinal and not carpet. Unless taken out by the previous owner, they also came standard with canvas seat covers.

    The facelift XL Plus also did not get the updated interior and IIRC it also retained the 110kw engine compared to the 118kw of the other facelift 2.2's. I hope my figures are correct.

    Enjoy your search and be patient, the right vehicle for you will come along....Ford or Isuzu.
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    Boytjie, lyste nou virie ballie..Hie is net twee vekeere anwoore hie innie comments..die een fooltjie recon jy moet die Toytjie koep en die anne outjie wil he djy moet die Ammarokie koep..Nou daai issie a slegte deal ni ma jyt gevra vannie Fordtjie of Kazooks ne?..Ek hettie VW en ek hettie 3.2 auto ma ek se jou, jy ga spyt wies as djy nie die Kazoos ga vattie..ko vertel ons oor 12 maane wat djy gedoenet..sodat ons vir jou kan ytlag, dis nou as djy die Fordjie gavat et..
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