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    This might be a stupid question, but I bought this yogurt last week, but realise no where on the packaging appears the word 'yogurt', not even on the ingredient column. Surely if you produce real yogurt you would want to advertise it? Do they make 'fake' yogurt, like fake coffee?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCMostert View Post

    This might be a stupid question, but I bought this yogurt last week, but realise no where on the packaging appears the word 'yogurt', not even on the ingredient column. Surely if you produce real yogurt you would want to advertise it? Do they make 'fake' yogurt, like fake coffee?
    a lot of changes recently on product definitions, you may have notice that some items previously labelled as feta is now called modified cheese because they clamped down on what can be called feta. So probably nothing has changed in the product, it just no longer complies to the new definition.
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    Default Re: Is there 'fake' yogurt?

    it stops being yogurt once fat is removed and replaced with sugar.

    in any case i personally will take fat over sugar any day.

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    Do the 1kg tubs with fruit have any live cultures to fix stomachs?
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    Default Re: Is there 'fake' yogurt?

    Quote Originally Posted by JCMostert View Post

    This might be a stupid question, but I bought this yogurt last week, but realise no where on the packaging appears the word 'yogurt', not even on the ingredient column. Surely if you produce real yogurt you would want to advertise it? Do they make 'fake' yogurt, like fake coffee?
    According to the website, it is yoghurt based, now if that is a play on words, I can't tell
    Another thing, they don't have blackberry on their website as part of their product offerings

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    Default Re: Is there 'fake' yogurt?

    That stuff is not yogurt.

    Fortunately they clamped down on that Feta cheese. Some was useless white blocks.
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    Default Re: Is there 'fake' yogurt?

    Quote Originally Posted by jadranko View Post
    it stops being yogurt once fat is removed and replaced with sugar.

    in any case i personally will take fat over sugar any day.
    https://www.gov.za/sites/default/fil...007gon1510.pdf

    details are probably in here somewhere

    PS agree that "low fat" is a big marketing ploy
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    Quote Originally Posted by mullerza View Post
    a lot of changes recently on product definitions, you may have notice that some items previously labelled as feta is now called modified cheese because they clamped down on what can be called feta. So probably nothing has changed in the product, it just no longer complies to the new definition.
    Just like Ricoffy, Frisco and Koffiehuis can no longer call themselves coffee because they aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olyfboer View Post
    Just like Ricoffy, Frisco and Koffiehuis can no longer call themselves coffee because they aren't.

    What? Where is MANDREAS?! He will be outraged about this!
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    Default Re: Is there 'fake' yogurt?

    Quote Originally Posted by JCMostert View Post
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    This might be a stupid question, but I bought this yogurt last week, but realise no where on the packaging appears the word 'yogurt', not even on the ingredient column. Surely if you produce real yogurt you would want to advertise it? Do they make 'fake' yogurt, like fake coffee?
    Hi

    I am a cheese maker by trade.

    This is a product that has water and milk combined in it. It is not actually yoghurt.

    The feta that has another name is also not really cheese.

    Melrose is not cheese

    Processed cheese is not cheese made from milk

    The only yoghurt that has good for your gut properties are the ones that state with pro biotic otherwise it is normal yoghurt.

    Please read labels on dairy products carefully. Chemicals used in imitation dairy products will calcify your organs, but not all the exact names of chemicals used are on the label. Companies use salt as salt petre (preservative) or acidifier as citric acid.

    The dairy industry is not regulated the same as meat or eggs. So terms like free range is not permitted and there are next to no farmers which do not use grains in the feed for the cows and the grains are all gmo. This does come through in the milk just as whatever your wife eats effects the baby beast feeding it effects you.

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    Default Re: Is there 'fake' yogurt?

    Quote Originally Posted by allandell View Post
    Hi

    I am a cheese maker by trade.

    This is a product that has water and milk combined in it. It is not actually yoghurt.

    The feta that has another name is also not really cheese.

    Melrose is not cheese

    Processed cheese is not cheese made from milk

    The only yoghurt that has good for your gut properties are the ones that state with pro biotic otherwise it is normal yoghurt.

    Please read labels on dairy products carefully. Chemicals used in imitation dairy products will calcify your organs, but not all the exact names of chemicals used are on the label. Companies use salt as salt petre (preservative) or acidifier as citric acid.

    The dairy industry is not regulated the same as meat or eggs. So terms like free range is not permitted and there are next to no farmers which do not use grains in the feed for the cows and the grains are all gmo. This does come through in the milk just as whatever your wife eats effects the baby beast feeding it effects you.

    More than welcome to pm me for more info if wanted.
    Thanks Allandell. The dishonesty of the marketing profession is one of my pet peeves. Since sugar has been recognised as one of the greatest risks to health, they have given it alternate names on labels. Here are some:

    Alternative names for Sugar

    Agave nectar
    Agave Syrup
    Anhydrous Dextrose
    Barbados sugar
    Barley malt
    Barley malt extract
    Barley malt syrup
    Beet juice concentrate
    Brown cane sugar
    Brown rice syrup
    Beet sugar
    Blackstrap Molasses
    Brown sugar
    Brown cane sugar
    Buttered syrup
    Cane crystals
    Cane juice
    Cane juice crystals
    Cane sugar
    Caramel
    Carbitol
    Carob syrup
    Castor sugar
    Coconut nectar
    Coconut palm sugar
    Coconut sugar
    Confectioner’s sugar
    Corn sweetener
    Corn syrup
    Corn syrup solids
    Crystal Dextrose
    Crystalline Fructose
    D-xylose
    Date sugar
    Dehydrated cane juice
    Demerara sugar
    Dextran
    Dextrin
    Dextrose
    Diglycerides
    Diastatic Malt
    Diatase
    Disaccharides
    Erythritol

    Ethyl Maltol
    Evaporated cane juice
    Florida Crystals
    Free-flowing brown sugars
    Fructan
    Fructooligosaccharides
    Fructose
    Fruit juice
    Fruit juice concentrate
    Galactose
    Glucitol
    Glucoamine
    Glucose
    Glucose solids
    Golden sugar
    Golden syrup
    Granulated Sugar
    Grape Juice Concentrate
    Grape sugar
    Hexitol
    HFCS
    High-Fructose Corn Syrup
    Honey
    Icing sugar
    Inversol
    Invert sugar
    Isomalt
    Lactose
    Liquid Fructose
    Malt extract
    Malt syrup
    Malted Barley
    Maltitol
    Maltodextrin
    Maltol

    Malts
    Maltose
    Mannitol
    Mannose
    Maple syrup
    Molasses
    Muscovado
    Muscovado Syrup
    Nectars
    Palm sugar
    Panocha
    Pear Syrup
    Pentose
    Powdered sugar
    Raisin syrup
    Raw cane sugar
    Raw sugar
    Refiner’s syrup
    Ribose Rice syrup
    Rice malt
    Rice maltodextrin
    Rice syrup
    Rice syrup solids
    Saccharose
    Sorbitol
    Sorghum Syrup
    Sucanat
    Secanet
    Sucrose
    Sugar
    Sugarcane Molasses
    Sweet Sorghum
    Syrup
    Table Sugar
    Tapioca Dextrin
    Treacle
    Trehalose
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    Quote Originally Posted by allandell View Post

    Please read labels on dairy products carefully. Chemicals used in imitation dairy products will calcify your organs, but not all the exact names of chemicals used are on the label. Companies use salt as salt petre (preservative) or acidifier as citric acid.
    So is this where kidney stones come from?

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    So is this where kidney stones come from?
    I think kidney stones are more from products like coke and beer etc and then not drinking enough water to compensate for the high sugar and alcohol intake.


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    Default Re: Is there 'fake' yogurt?

    I learned the other day that they even make fake vitamin C.
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    What are we eating these days
    @allandell since you're a cheese guy...
    What is this 'pizza cheese' sold all over. I had it twice and it becomes tough plastic once cooked. Hate the stuff but mozzarella has become so expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabs View Post
    What are we eating these days
    @allandell since you're a cheese guy...
    What is this 'pizza cheese' sold all over. I had it twice and it becomes tough plastic once cooked. Hate the stuff but mozzarella has become so expensive.
    There is a company in Durban called ethekweni cheese that makes tons of mozzarella every day from chemicals only. They do nit ever received 1 drop of milk but they do out some milk powder in their products.

    The very nice and popular cheese, Philadelphia was made by their chemist / cheese maker and it is all chemicals.

    There are very few places now that make cheese without all the added stuff as it is all about profits now days.


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    Quote Originally Posted by allandell View Post
    There is a company in Durban called ethekweni cheese that makes tons of mozzarella every day from chemicals only. They do nit ever received 1 drop of milk but they do out some milk powder in their products.

    The very nice and popular cheese, Philadelphia was made by their chemist / cheese maker and it is all chemicals.

    There are very few places now that make cheese without all the added stuff as it is all about profits now days.
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    I was on a French flagged drillship. Naturally they had a wonderful selection of cheeses on their cheeseboard. One of the Americans from Alabama asked what they were. I replied that they were cheeses. He looked sceptical and said that cheese in America is yellow, comes in squares and is put on burgers. He took a bit of Camembert and some blue mould cheese I recommended to him. He refused to eat them at the table. I asked why. He said because they smell like a-ss.

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    What? Where is MANDREAS?! He will be outraged about this!

    Why do you think he left the forum and came back with a different username?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olyfboer View Post
    I was on a French flagged drillship. Naturally they had a wonderful selection of cheeses on their cheeseboard. One of the Americans from Alabama asked what they were. I replied that they were cheeses. He looked sceptical and said that cheese in America is yellow, comes in squares and is put on burgers. He took a bit of Camembert and some blue mould cheese I recommended to him. He refused to eat them at the table. I asked why. He said because they smell like a-ss.


    Reminds me of my favourite saying about "Merican beer, American beer is like sex on a canoe... F#$%ing close to water.
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