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    Default Wrangler 2.8 CRD dead

    So my Wrangler died last week Sunday.

    Drove on the highway, the oil light went on and of suddenly and then the vehicle cut out. There were a heavy burning smell, although the heat gauge never went over half.

    Let it get 'towed' to the guys that serviced the Jeep the past 4 years, they can not find any fault, except that the diesel filter hasn't been changed since 2016 (they serviced the vehicle the past 4 years!). OK, if that is the only problem, please do a service on the Wrangler and the brake pads as well.

    They phoned me, my Jeep is ready for collection, the cost is R5980.00 (R3k for the service and R3K for the brakes).

    What created the burning smell, I asked them. No, they don't know, they will do a quick check.

    So they phoned me back the following day, there is a water fitting that is leaking badly at the back of the engine, so the engine overheated and because there was no water to flow over the heat sensor, the Jeep never showed that is was overheating. They won't take a change on working on the engine, I must take it to a Jeep Specialist, they suggest Eben in 18th Avenue.

    So I took the Jeep to Eben, worst case scenario: R40 000 to R60 000 damages.

    Now this is where my temper rises, I paid Koops almost R3K for what exactly? Isn't the most logical thing to do when a vehicle breaks down, to go through the engine and check everything?

    Rant over, the Jeep will now probable stand for the next year while I try to get money to fix the damn thing. I just bought a soft top last week
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    Default Re: Wrangler 2.8 CRD dead

    The lack of recourse against workshops like these makes me very cross.

    In our business we have also screwed up before, more than once too, and every single time we have corrected the mistakes at our cost, and it did not always come cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk View Post
    The lack of recourse against workshops like these makes me very cross.

    In our business we have also screwed up before, more than once too, and every single time we have corrected the mistakes at our cost, and it did not always come cheap.
    Would not say the leaky pipe and overheating can be blamed on the workshop . Paying for the service is another story
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    I feel your pain. Had my motor replaced with a new crate motor at 106 000km's. Cost me R110 000 seven years ago. If it has to go again I am going to this guy. All the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jacquespienaar View Post
    I feel your pain. Had my motor replaced with a new crate motor at 106 000km's. Cost me R110 000 seven years ago. If it has to go again I am going to this guy. All the best.
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/1230...45906242783370
    How can the guy possibly be doing a decent job if he charges R60k all in?

    Seems mighty cheap for what is a complex job that requires lots of parts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Skylark View Post
    How can the guy possibly be doing a decent job if he charges R60k all in?

    Seems mighty cheap for what is a complex job that requires lots of parts.

    I have no idea. Maybe speak to people that he has helped already? Go look at vehicles that he's done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCMostert View Post
    So my Wrangler died last week Sunday.

    Drove on the highway, the oil light went on and of suddenly and then the vehicle cut out. There were a heavy burning smell, although the heat gauge never went over half.

    Let it get 'towed' to the guys that serviced the Jeep the past 4 years, they can not find any fault, except that the diesel filter hasn't been changed since 2016 (they serviced the vehicle the past 4 years!). OK, if that is the only problem, please do a service on the Wrangler and the break pads as well.

    They phoned me, my Jeep is ready for collection, the cost is R5980.00 (R3k for the service and R3K for the breaks).

    What created the burning smell, I asked them. No, they don't know, they will do a quick check.

    So they phoned me back the following day, there is a water fitting that is leaking badly at the back of the engine, so the engine overheated and because there was no water to flow over the heat sensor, the Jeep never showed that is was overheating. They won't take a change on working on the engine, I must take it to a Jeep Specialist, they suggest Eben in 18th Avenue.

    So I took the Jeep to Eben, worst case scenario: R40 000 to R60 000 damages.

    Now this is where my temper rises, I paid the previous workshop almost R3K for what exactly? Isn't the most logical thing to do when a vehicle breaks down, to go through the engine and check everything?

    Rant over, the Jeep will now probable stand for the next year while I try to get money to fix the damn thing. I just bought a soft top last week
    If the engine was damaged how can they say its ready for collection?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickJK View Post
    If the engine was damaged how can they say its ready for collection?
    I used to recommend them to everybody

    Now I must look at my options:
    1. Fix the current motor;
    2. Do a Lexus conversion;
    3. Buy a 3.6 Pentastar motor, there is secondhand ones starting at R38 000 on Facebook;
    4. Let the thing stands untill it is paid off and then sell it for what ever I can get for it.
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    Sorry man that really sucks.

    Maybe se what you can get for it as is and look for a nice 2nd hand 3.6.

    Either way hope you come right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCMostert View Post
    I used to recommend them to everybody

    Now I must look at my options:
    1. Fix the current motor;
    2. Do a Lexus conversion;
    3. Buy a 3.6 Pentastar motor, there is secondhand ones starting at R38 000 on Facebook;
    4. Let the thing stands untill it is paid off and then sell it for what ever I can get for it.
    Proper Lexus conversion: R100k if you can find a guy to do it properly
    Pentastar: What about the ECU and full harness?

    Other option: drop a Jap or VW TDi into it? Will still be more than fixing the CRD in the end.

    I still fail to understand why most manufacturers will put 100 sensors in but ignore a coolant level sensor, an EGT sensor, and a head temp sensor.

    Fix the CRD and fit an EMS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    Proper Lexus conversion: R100k if you can find a guy to do it properly
    Pentastar: What about the ECU and full harness?

    Other option: drop a Jap or VW TDi into it? Will still be more than fixing the CRD in the end.

    I still fail to understand why most manufacturers will put 100 sensors in but ignore a coolant level sensor, an EGT sensor, and a head temp sensor.

    Fix the CRD and fit an EMS.
    This. My subaru had sensors, but by the time it showed a rise in coolant temperatures the head gasket would already be blown..

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    Default Re: Wrangler 2.8 CRD dead

    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    Proper Lexus conversion: R100k if you can find a guy to do it properly
    Pentastar: What about the ECU and full harness?

    Other option: drop a Jap or VW TDi into it? Will still be more than fixing the CRD in the end.

    I still fail to understand why most manufacturers will put 100 sensors in but ignore a coolant level sensor, an EGT sensor, and a head temp sensor.

    Fix the CRD and fit an EMS.
    Rather fix the original engine as Jelo said. These modern Jeeps are far to complex electronically to make any conversion that works properly cost effective.
    I also have a JK CRD and itís long term reliability is something that is always in the back of my mind.
    One gauge that people do not think about when it comes to identifying a overheating engine is a oil pressure gauge.
    Many years ago I owned a V6 Alfa and as those of you who have owned a Alfa from the pre mid 80ís era, will know ,their electrics and heaven forbid electronics were something to be desired!Anyway this carís temperature gauge did not work but it did have a oil pressure gauge.One weekend when I was driving back to Richards Bay from Durban I noticed that the oil pressure was dropping.I stopped to check to see what the problem was and to my horror I found that a small water hose had burst and that there was there was virtually no water left in the cooling system.
    A plan was made to do a temporary roadside repair which was good enough allow the car to get to the police station near the Tugela bridge.where it was left .The next day a more permanent repair was done and the car was driven home. The engine survived the ordeal but I did re torque the cylinder heads .

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    Default Re: Wrangler 2.8 CRD dead

    I see Monster Jeep had an ad on Facebook that they rebuild the 2.8 engines
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    What are you going to do?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak View Post
    What are you going to do?
    Eben will be able to give me a exact damage report by Thursday, then I will make a decision from there, but most probably the Jeep will stand for 6 months or so. I could only save R13 000 up to now.


    How much can I sell a 2010 Wrangler with 177 000 km on the clock with a blown engine, voetstoots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCMostert View Post
    Eben will be able to give me a exact damage report by Thursday, then I will make a decision from there, but most probably the Jeep will stand for 6 months or so. I could only save R13 000 up to now.


    How much can I sell a 2010 Wrangler with 177 000 km on the clock with a blown engine, voetstoots?
    Strongs, ### situation to be in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JCMostert View Post
    Eben will be able to give me a exact damage report by Thursday, then I will make a decision from there, but most probably the Jeep will stand for 6 months or so. I could only save R13 000 up to now.


    How much can I sell a 2010 Wrangler with 177 000 km on the clock with a blown engine, voetstoots?
    That's pretty sad. I see the lowest one on AT is R220k.

    Im actually surprised to see how well they keep their value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaan Pot View Post
    That's pretty sad. I see the lowest one on AT is R220k.

    Im actually surprised to see how well they keep their value.
    R220K can not be with a blown engine, can it? Sounds too much.
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    Default Re: Wrangler 2.8 CRD dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepanator View Post
    I see Monster Jeep had an ad on Facebook that they rebuild the 2.8 engines
    Yeah i also came across this on Facebook right now, hope this helps

    Jeep Wrangler JK or Jeep Cherokee KK 2.8 CRD Engine available for only R55 000 with your old engine trade. We can also assist in fitment in our RMI Approved fully equipped workshop.

    Parts: 071 6000 808
    Workshop: 072 580 4518
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    Quote Originally Posted by rickJK View Post
    Yeah i also came across this on Facebook right now, hope this helps

    Jeep Wrangler JK or Jeep Cherokee KK 2.8 CRD Engine available for only R55 000 with your old engine trade. We can also assist in fitment in our RMI Approved fully equipped workshop.

    Parts: 071 6000 808
    Workshop: 072 580 4518
    Monster Jeep is literary 80 metres from our offices, they are for sure a good option to consider after Thursday.
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