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    Default Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    Let us just say I start going soft in my head, and I stop using my 4x4 like I do now......, and I just want a good capable SUV to tow my camper on rough roads...

    And... I can get a brand new Grand Cherokee Overland for R899 000 (retail R1 299 000) and I am sure if I twist harder, I can ask for my brand of tyres, and more...

    Why would it be wrong to think that its the best large SUV for the money at this moment...

    A good low range
    A reliable air suspension
    A reliable V6 diesel with lots of shove
    All the bells and wistles with adaptive safety everything
    A removable air dam
    Tow rating of 3000kg

    Why should I not buy it?
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    Default Re: Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    Friend of mine did not enjoy towing very much with his grand Cherokee. He went back to a double cab, then a old shape everest, then went to a pathfinder and now has actually gone to a duster but has not towed with the duster yet. He said best towing was the double cab and pathfinder. Said the jeep towed without a problem but he just had to concentrate more with it than the others.


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    Default Re: Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    Quote Originally Posted by allandell View Post
    Friend of mine did not enjoy towing very much with his grand Cherokee. He went back to a double cab, then a old shape everest, then went to a pathfinder and now has actually gone to a duster but has not towed with the duster yet. He said best towing was the double cab and pathfinder. Said the jeep towed without a problem but he just had to concentrate more with it than the others.
    Just 1 person experience may be different to another though.


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    Default Re: Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    Once out of warranty / service plan you can expect some eye watering repair costs should anything go wrong

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    Default Re: Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Pint View Post
    Once out of warranty / service plan you can expect some eye watering repair costs should anything go wrong
    Are you speaking from experience?

    Which WK2 did you own out of warranty?

    How much more than other luxury SUV's?
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    Default Re: Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Pint View Post
    Once out of warranty / service plan you can expect some eye watering repair costs should anything go wrong
    I do not plan on owning it more than 4 years.. Edit: 3 years max
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    Default Re: Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    Just get this...............

    https://www.autotrader.co.za/car-for...2/sut/25555174

    Best of Both. SUV size you could park the Jeep in with a bak also
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    Default Re: Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    Just get this...............

    https://www.autotrader.co.za/car-for...2/sut/25555174

    Best of Both. SUV size you could park the Jeep in with a bak also
    Ouch... That hurt just looking at it!!
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    Default Re: Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Estee View Post
    Just get this...............

    https://www.autotrader.co.za/car-for...2/sut/25555174

    Best of Both. SUV size you could park the Jeep in with a bak also
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    Default Re: Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    So why no query on the WK2 under the Jeep section?

    If you're buying a new one, with a dealer in RTB, a factory warranty and maintenance plan, I fail to understand a problem with that part of it.

    The only issue as mentioned MIGHT be towing behaviour, and as you said, one report is not an established fact. Maybe because the man didn't understand air suspension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allandell View Post
    Just 1 person experience may be different to another though.
    i do not believe this for one second. The Jeep tows brilliantly. Also depends what your friend towed and now to bring in a Duster.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceHun View Post
    i do not believe this for one second. The Jeep tows brilliantly. Also depends what your friend towed and now to bring in a Duster.....
    I think he had said it was his boat. 17 foot boat.
    It towed well just he said he had to concentrate more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak View Post
    Are you speaking from experience?

    Which WK2 did you own out of warranty?

    How much more than other luxury SUV's?
    Did I touch a nerve?

    I'm afraid I have only the experience of a close fishing buddy that owned the previous Grand Cherokee 4.7l V8 Petrol and had 2 repair bills totaling around R100k straight out of warranty, sold that for not too much more than the repair bills. Upgraded to the next Grand Cherokee V6 Petrol. Straight out of warranty it required new CVs the costs for which were in the region of R50k through an indie.

    Sold that vehicle immediately and went for a Fortuner.

    Both vehicles were beautiful machines. The 4.7 V8 was in particular a dream to travel in, enormous comfortable back seats and with 4 big fishermen plus me () and an offroad trailer loaded with the contents of too many tackle stores it breezed through the Transkei mud and on the open road caused the contribution to many a cold drink fund without realizing it.

    Like most things I suppose its a balancing act. Excellent vehicle but you need to expect that when something goes awry its not a cheap fix.

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    Default Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    The old 4.7 GC had solid axles so it canít be compared to the later WK2 which has independent & air suspension. Itís also has anti sway for towing. Braked, I think they can tow up to 3500 kg.

    I canít think of a better option for that money.

    The Duster can only tow 1500 braked
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    Default Re: Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    Go take a look at the Touareg before you decide on the Jeep.

    May be a bit more in price, but in my opinion, alot of more car that the Jeep.
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    Default Re: Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Half-Pint View Post
    Did I touch a nerve?

    I'm afraid I have only the experience of a close fishing buddy that owned the previous Grand Cherokee 4.7l V8 Petrol and had 2 repair bills totaling around R100k straight out of warranty, sold that for not too much more than the repair bills. Upgraded to the next Grand Cherokee V6 Petrol. Straight out of warranty it required new CVs the costs for which were in the region of R50k through an indie.

    Sold that vehicle immediately and went for a Fortuner.

    Both vehicles were beautiful machines. The 4.7 V8 was in particular a dream to travel in, enormous comfortable back seats and with 4 big fishermen plus me () and an offroad trailer loaded with the contents of too many tackle stores it breezed through the Transkei mud and on the open road caused the contribution to many a cold drink fund without realizing it.

    Like most things I suppose its a balancing act. Excellent vehicle but you need to expect that when something goes awry its not a cheap fix.
    well I had the 4.7 HO WJ and I also lost my shirt on that.......and I get lambasted by all & sundry if I mention it, but in this case, it will be new with a full Jeep warranty and service plan, so your perception and anecdotal evidence is moot
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    Quote Originally Posted by MANDREAS View Post
    Go take a look at the Touareg before you decide on the Jeep.

    May be a bit more in price, but in my opinion, alot of more car that the Jeep.

    Why, in your opinion would you think I need an Touarag After inquiring your opinion of the GC? Did you read my first post? past the firs sentence?
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    Default Re: Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    Why, in your opinion would you think I need an Touarag After inquiring your opinion of the GC? Did you read my first post? past the firs sentence?
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    Default Re: Some more thinking... Some more of your thoughts please.

    Andrew - you're going to have to accept the fact. It's either going to have to be a Touareg, or a Pajero...

    I'm just surprised the Pajero is taking so long to be mentioned here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by iandvl View Post
    Andrew - you're going to have to accept the fact. It's either going to have to be a Touareg, or a Pajero...

    I'm just surprised the Pajero is taking so long to be mentioned here...

    It was mentioned via Whatsup 10minutes after posting the thread
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