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    Question My first 4x4! Some advice needed please..

    Ladies and Gents, it's done. I have purchased an old COLT 4x4 2.8.

    Advice needed:

    Insurance
    Who do you guys insure with?
    This vehicle will not be on the road every day. It will likely sleep at work, in secure parking.
    It's in Plett, I need to get it and drive her back to Cape Town. I hope the insurance company will insure it even if it's not on my name yet / they haven't viewed it?

    Inspection:
    Anything I need to look out for before I embark on my 500km ride back home? (other than the obvious like oil & water levels)?

    Next steps:
    Is it worth going for a beginner's 4x4 course or should I just head out into the wilderness after watching some YouTube?
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    Default Re: My first 4x4! Some advice needed please..

    I'm a noob myself, bought my first 4x4 in December. I recommend the introduction to 4x4 course by teamoffroad. But if you can't wait to go off-road, just be careful I know I couldn't wait.

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    Default Re: My first 4x4! Some advice needed please..

    Quote Originally Posted by CJC View Post
    Insurance
    Who do you guys insure with?
    This vehicle will not be on the road every day. It will likely sleep at work, in secure parking.
    It's in Plett, I need to get it and drive her back to Cape Town. I hope the insurance company will insure it even if it's not on my name yet / they haven't viewed it?
    Most insurance companies will add the vehicle to your policy over the phone as soon as you take delivery.
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    Default Re: My first 4x4! Some advice needed please..

    On the 2.8 Colt, point nr 1.

    Engine monitor system. Those Colts overheated and cracked heads. Why? Becaus they pulled like steam trains and were ridden to hard and overheated, easily managable situation.

    Google it, and the spanish AMC head replacement. Dont be scared of it.

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    Default Re: My first 4x4! Some advice needed please..

    Insurance:
    If your intention is to mainly use it off-road/over-landing, then maybe a specialized insurer/broker would help rather than just going to the big corporates.

    Inspection:
    Any fluids leaking around wheel hubs, or the drive train. Any strange deformities on the tires.

    Yes, go for a course. Also did the teamoffroad one and doing another one this weekend. There is a huge difference between watching it and having experts guide you. I am pretty sure some of the things I did with my PS I would not have believed possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LouisXander View Post
    On the 2.8 Colt, point nr 1.

    Engine monitor system. Those Colts overheated and cracked heads. Why? Becaus they pulled like steam trains and were ridden to hard and overheated, easily managable situation.

    Google it, and the spanish AMC head replacement. Dont be scared of it.
    Just to clarify the overheating situation. I don't know your knowledge of diesel engines.
    Lets say you're going uphill on the highway and keep the accelerator in a accelerating position, the engine gets over fuelled and that causes your combustion chambers/ cylinder head to heat up to 800C and beyond. You wont see a change on you heat gauge but it will crack your head soon.
    The only way to keep this situation under control, in my opinion, is to install an Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) gauge to monitor your EGT and let off the juice a bit.
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    Default Re: My first 4x4! Some advice needed please..

    Quote Originally Posted by CJC View Post
    Ladies and Gents, it's done. I have purchased an old COLT 4x4 2.8.

    Advice needed:

    Insurance
    Who do you guys insure with?
    This vehicle will not be on the road every day. It will likely sleep at work, in secure parking.
    It's in Plett, I need to get it and drive her back to Cape Town. I hope the insurance company will insure it even if it's not on my name yet / they haven't viewed it?

    Inspection:
    Anything I need to look out for before I embark on my 500km ride back home? (other than the obvious like oil & water levels)?

    Next steps:
    Is it worth going for a beginner's 4x4 course or should I just head out into the wilderness after watching some YouTube?

    Welcome to the club.

    is it a single cab non turbo 2.8 diesel?
    or a clubcab turbo 2.8 diesel?

    Just drive it, drive offroad once or twice then maybe go for a course
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    Default Re: My first 4x4! Some advice needed please..

    Quote Originally Posted by LouisXander View Post
    On the 2.8 Colt, point nr 1.

    Engine monitor system. Those Colts overheated and cracked heads. Why? Becaus they pulled like steam trains and were ridden to hard and overheated, easily managable situation.

    Google it, and the spanish AMC head replacement. Dont be scared of it.
    This is great advice if its a 2.8tdi. It will be exacerbated if the cooling system is compromised (mud on the radiator, dirt in the radiator, incorrect coolant) so make sure the first thing you check is the condition of the coolant and then have the whole system checked out by a pro. Many out there with high mileage and no problems.

    Get it insured before driving anywhere.

    Enjoy,

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    Default Re: My first 4x4! Some advice needed please..

    Quote Originally Posted by CJC View Post
    Ladies and Gents, it's done. I have purchased an old COLT 4x4 2.8.

    Advice needed:

    Insurance
    Who do you guys insure with?
    This vehicle will not be on the road every day. It will likely sleep at work, in secure parking.
    It's in Plett, I need to get it and drive her back to Cape Town. I hope the insurance company will insure it even if it's not on my name yet / they haven't viewed it?

    Inspection:
    Anything I need to look out for before I embark on my 500km ride back home? (other than the obvious like oil & water levels)?

    Next steps:
    Is it worth going for a beginner's 4x4 course or should I just head out into the wilderness after watching some YouTube?
    If it is possible, get the Colt to Naas le Roux at Hi-Q in George for a once over before your journey. He used to work for Merc and did lots of developmental work on the Colts.
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    Default Re: My first 4x4! Some advice needed please..

    Congrats!

    I would suggest watching this, it's an eye opener:

    HOW TO DRIVE A 4X4 off-road. FULL FEATURE VIDEO. From 4xOverland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOweeVYkyps

    A bit old, but still applicable.

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    Default Re: My first 4x4! Some advice needed please..

    Quote Originally Posted by WantOnsKan View Post
    Congrats!

    I would suggest watching this, it's an eye opener:

    HOW TO DRIVE A 4X4 off-road. FULL FEATURE VIDEO. From 4xOverland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOweeVYkyps

    A bit old, but still applicable.
    You just recommended an ASPW video on this forum.
    You are in trouble ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaira View Post
    You just recommended an ASPW video on this forum.
    You are in trouble ...
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    Back to the Colt, there is a company also in George called Motobushi, they specialize in Mitsubishi. Maybe get the vehicle to them for a squizz.
    Failing that pm me and I can go take a look at it for you, I live in the Sedgefield area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thabogrobler View Post
    If it is possible, get the Colt to Naas le Roux at Hi-Q in George for a once over before your journey. He used to work for Merc and did lots of developmental work on the Colts.
    Can Naas le Roux give me some advice please. I have a MITSUBISHI COLT 2800 Tdi Club Cab 2007 model.It has done 280,000 Kms trouble free.It has developed an engine vibration.At first it was suspected that it could be damaged Engine Mountings.After replacing them it turned out not to be the problem.It was found after removing the motor,that both Balance Shafts have excessive play,indicating that the Bushes are badly worn.I want to remove the worn Bushes & replace them,but the Bushes are not available.
    MITSUBISHI wants to sell me a new Block......There is so much conflicting opinion about DELETING these balance shafts that I'm not sure which route to follow.Personally,I would prefer to replace the Bushes & keep the Balance Shafts?

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    Default Re: My first 4x4! Some advice needed please..

    i would absolutely recommend a 4x4 course, before going out to play.

    what the course cost in comparison to the damage it has saved me from doing, is worth every cent.

    i went with Team Offroad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SafariCamper View Post
    Can Naas le Roux give me some advice please. I have a MITSUBISHI COLT 2800 Tdi Club Cab 2007 model.It has done 280,000 Kms trouble free.It has developed an engine vibration.At first it was suspected that it could be damaged Engine Mountings.After replacing them it turned out not to be the problem.It was found after removing the motor,that both Balance Shafts have excessive play,indicating that the Bushes are badly worn.I want to remove the worn Bushes & replace them,but the Bushes are not available.
    MITSUBISHI wants to sell me a new Block......There is so much conflicting opinion about DELETING these balance shafts that I'm not sure which route to follow.Personally,I would prefer to replace the Bushes & keep the Balance Shafts?
    Any competent machine shop can replace the bushes for you. They are simple to match up and mabe you can try Johan at Alert engine parts in George. Otherwise you can try Masterperts in the Cape.

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    Naas le Roux killed Mitsubishi Motorsport in SA after his accident at Koster, cannot believe he had a Mitsubishi specialized workshop. Now I will sit on my hands
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    @SafariCamper : cheaper to just buy an imported engine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Muller View Post
    Any competent machine shop can replace the bushes for you. They are simple to match up and mabe you can try Johan at Alert engine parts in George. Otherwise you can try Masterperts in the Cape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre Muller View Post
    Any competent machine shop can replace the bushes for you. They are simple to match up and mabe you can try Johan at Alert engine parts in George. Otherwise you can try Masterperts in the Cape.
    I'm in Northwest close to Brits - any suggestions as to who I can use there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    @SafariCamper : cheaper to just buy an imported engine.
    What sort of price would I be looking at? Presumably from somewhere like Japan Auto?

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