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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Well they don't appear to mine very deep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hylton View Post
    Are you suggesting that everybody should dis invest from China ?
    I would not disagree but that would be naive.
    Honestly, I don't know what the answer is, but I do think they should have thought it through a bit, and should have predicted this move. It wasn't that hard to predict to start off with, or least, that's what I think. Couldn't they have sold their share when it made a big enough profit, and then moved it somewhere else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCMostert View Post
    Anyhow, just a matter of time and your pension fund will be invested in SA government schemes so relax
    Faaaark....that was brutal bru....true, but never nice to hear...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizardalpha View Post
    I generally think I am a fairly clever, but the following comment might either be the smartest comment I have ever made, or the dumbest. You Pick.

    Why on earth would Naspers invest in a Chinese company, knowing full well that Trump has been on a crusade from the day he took office against the Chinese, and in his defense, not unfounded, as European companies like Facebook, whatsapp and so forth is blocked in China, there you only get THEIR stuff.

    So now, in your naivety, you want to blame Trump, whereas you should be putting the blame on the investors, much like South African government sells us to the Chinese in general.

    Gosh, the mind boggles.
    They have been invested in Tencent long before Trump came to power. How do you think Naspers became the largest company on the JSE?

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    So many clever ppl on this forum. Should all be rich. The mind boggles ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prof View Post

    And we’re still in the early stages of it... With all the negative posts about the ANC, at least there was one positive - they “couldn’t figure out” how to leverage cell data to track/trace COVID.

    but I’m sure China will help them with the tech.

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    So Prosus is down 5.2% as I type this, but still up 44% over the last 6 months.
    Naspers is down 4.85% but still up 17% over the last 6 months.
    What exactly is the big deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaira View Post
    So Prosus is down 5.2% as I type this, but still up 44% over the last 6 months.
    Naspers is down 4.85% but still up 17% over the last 6 months.
    What exactly is the big deal?
    Now you've gone a ruined a perfectly good scare mongering thread with facts, shame on you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 340 View Post
    Trump decided to ban Tik Tok and Wechat from the states in 45 days.
    Result: 10Cents share price drops.
    Result: Naspers share price drops.
    Result: R90 billion wiped off Naspers market cap.
    Result: SA pension funds invested in Naspers loses Billions.

    Still think Trump is cool😳, maybe not anymore if you’re a SA pensioner.
    Yes, I still think Trump is super cool, and everyday I open my eyes, I wish he was my President. At least I would then have a President to be proud of... How many Billions have your ex and current Presidents wasted and wiped of your pension, probably way more than R90Bill. Some people would use any excuse to make President Trump look bad.

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    Hi Jack!

    I don't understand conservative South Africa's obsession with Donald Trump. It is as if he is their president?

    Bye Jack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steady View Post
    Now you've gone a ruined a perfectly good scare mongering thread with facts, shame on you!

    If Naspers did not invest in China our JSE would not have gone anywhere in the past 10 years ..... that would have hurt your pension fund al whole lot more...

    Naspers up 42% in 12 months (after today's fall) and still trading at a big discount to the Tencent value, Prosus is still up 63 % year to date.... (not listed for 12 months yet)

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    I was once party to a dinner conversation, both wealthy gentlemen sitting around the table. One was trying to convince the other that he should invest his wealth. The latter was having none of it, his reply was; ''I invest my money in things I can control. If I lose money its because I was a cnut, not because some other cnut was a cnut or fell off a camel or something like that''.

    One is still wealthy, the other has lost in excess of 50% of his wealth in the last 12 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bush Boy View Post
    Yes, I still think Trump is super cool, and everyday I open my eyes, I wish he was my President. At least I would then have a President to be proud of... How many Billions have your ex and current Presidents wasted and wiped of your pension, probably way more than R90Bill. Some people would use any excuse to make President Trump look bad.

    I heard that CNN was hiring... you'll fit in well over there...
    You must have very low personal standards if you would be proud to have Trump as your president....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviator_01 View Post
    You must have very low personal standards if you would be proud to have Trump as your president....
    The Trump debate....I certainly wish he would be our president instead of the Waschlappen we have now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviator_01 View Post
    You must have very low personal standards if you would be proud to have Trump as your president....
    Jaaa Aviator_01.... And you must have very high standards if the only reply you can think of is an insult... Such a tough and big boy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aviator_01 View Post
    You must have very low personal standards if you would be proud to have Trump as your president....
    I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion without being insulted, or have we joined the cancel culture?
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    Never understood why apparently normal people with high moral standards sometimes choose an insensitive arrogant control freak as their role model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makaira View Post
    Never understood why apparently normal people with high moral standards sometimes choose an insensitive arrogant control freak as their role model.
    Easy - they are not normal people with high moral standards....
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    Well, thanks to Trump, my portfolio has grown quite a lot over the last few weeks. Mainly because most of my portfolio consists of US stock.

    Not something I can say about the current SA president...........

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