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    Quote Originally Posted by Roberto Betta View Post
    If I look at that clip of the explosion on that news feed, it seem as if the explosion happened between the fire and the silos, and it seems as if the blast detonated towards the silos..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    If I look at that clip of the explosion on that news feed, it seem as if the explosion happened between the fire and the silos, and it seems as if the blast detonated towards the silos..
    The grain silos, could also have had the necessary "carbon content" to be the carrier for the reaction with the ammonium nitrate... The nitrate gas mixing with the silo content's particles... BOOM!
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    I do believe the ammonium nitrate bit. The brown clouds post detonation is typical niitrogen dioxide which is a brown gas at elevated temperatures and one of the gases formed whet nitrates detonate.

    In one of the videos one can see flashes, similar to fireworks popping.

    How did it start? How many of you had "bomb crackers" in school and just let it sit there all on its own doing nothing? Nope, we want it to explode. Maybe somebody did play with stored "fireworks" and it got out of hand.

    What I do not understand is how anybody with a brain store that amount of ammonium nitrate in one place.
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    This reminds me a bit of the Tom Clancy novel "Clear and Present Danger".

    How easy would it have been for a precision bomb to strike the warehouse as a smoke grenade was set off to generate the white smoke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak View Post
    This reminds me a bit of the Tom Clancy novel "Clear and Present Danger".

    How easy would it have been for a precision bomb to strike the warehouse as a smoke grenade was set off to generate the white smoke.

    I see what you are doing.....


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    Saw on news this morning that a few died already from explosion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2beFree View Post
    I see what you are doing.....


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    I'm surprised that the liberal media (CNN) here haven't blame Trump yet for this explosion.
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    On another note, someone is in deep sheet, who ever was in charge with the safety and health hazards...
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    Provided it is a country with accountability.

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    So, is it sodium nitrate or ammonium nitrate? 2 very different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZuluCowboy View Post
    SkyNews gets it wrong here, doesn't make it less tragic. Annonium nitrate on it's own is not explosive, will need a rare lining up of the stars to explode in a warehouse, and then not all of it, just some of it. I suspect there was something else in that warehouse that went bang and they aren't going to say what it was. Ala SA Helderberg.

    Quoted from Sky Website. "With the chemical formula NH4NO3, ammonium nitrate is a naturally occurring, highly soluble white crystalline solid, more commonly know as saltpetre."
    Sodium Nitrate (Saltpeter, but mined in Chile) is a metal based mineral compound that is highly explosive in the right conditions... but its Chemical symbol is NaNO3 not NH4NO3 (Ammonium Nitrate) Sodium Nitrate is naturally occurring and is known as salpeter.. Not the ammonium version

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    Saw on news this morning that a few died already from explosion.
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    So, is it sodium nitrate or ammonium nitrate? 2 very different things.
    Sodium Nitrate (Saltpeter, but mined in Chile) is a metal based metal compound that is highly explosive in the right conditions... but its Chemical symbol is NaNO3 not NH4NO3 (Ammonium Nitrate)
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    Tianjin - 2015 = 800 tons of AN

    So this was 4.5 times bigger than that! They saying 1/5 of Hiroshima.

    This is nuts.
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    Was that explosion at the Hezbollah controlled factory?
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    That factory makes and stores missiles for Iran.

    Iran funds Hezbollah, and Hezbollah has tons of weapons stockpiles all over Beirut.

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    I see it now stands at 100 killed and 4000 wounded, but I think this will still climb a lot as they find missing people. Can't even imagine how crazy things must be for the emergency services and at hospitals which was already under pressure with covid cases.
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    Apparently the harbor master/customs officer tried to get rid of the stuff for years. Nothing happened. He did get rid of it but in a wrong way.

    News say 300 000 people have serious housing issues. I am sure a lot of eye damage. Fire - small explosions = people watch through windows and then explosion shock wave. Not good.

    70% of the trade through that harbor. How bad are the damages?

    Somehow ammonium nitrate can blow up. That happened in my home town. Stuff was in storage silo - fertilizer plant. 10 tn in molten stage. 10 people dead.

    Ammonium nitrate is an important chemical. Because of it there has been population explosion. Back in the history population was limited by available amount of cow s...t. Then came bird s...t and after that man made fertilizers. Along the line Germans noted by accident that it makes reasonable explosive.
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    This guy was filming from his car while driving quite a distance away

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    The extent of the devastation can be seen in these images.
    The supersonic blast caused most of the secondary damage.
    Note the devastation without evidence of fire.
    It is absolutely amazing that part of the battery of silos survived both blasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4eTouareg View Post
    It is absolutely amazing that part of the battery of silos survived both blasts.
    If you consider the significant amount of concrete in these silo cylinders (attached a picture of the Zeits Mocaa museum carved of such a structure) they certainly appear pretty robust - but still, that was a rather massive explosion and to withstand it is rather impressive.

    The experts can perhaps tell us whether a large structure is better off to be closer or a small distance away couple of hundreds meters from such a blast?
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    That row of silos is/was structurally strong. Explosion removed half but there was not enough energy to remove the rest. I am not sure if it was 3 or 4 rows of silos.
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