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    Default What glue to use?

    Gents I need some help please. I am a real novice when it comes to woodwork, but am now trying to make a bread/ cutting board. I am using a mixture of hard wood strips that I need to glue together but am not sure what type of glue to use. I know the normal wood glue is not happy if exposed to a lot of moisture, hence me turning here for help.

    What glue do you suggest?
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    Default Re: What glue to use?

    Use this one
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    Default Re: What glue to use?

    I use Cascamite for that.

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    Default Re: What glue to use?

    Exactly what Viper R says, and some interesting facts about it.


    “take a closer look at the Alcolin Ultra (Blue & Yellow) label. This adhesive in actually TiteBond III. Permoseal South Africa imports it in bulk and distributes it under their Alcolin brand. They have done so for some years.
    You can also buy it in 5 Litre containers, just ask BPM Toolcraft to order it for you.
    It combines the strength, sandability, ease of use and water cleanup of PVAs (aliphatic resins) with the durability, open time and water-resistance of polyurethanes.
    -Waterproof - Passes ANSI/HPVA Type I -
    -Specification
    -Superior strength
    -Longer open time
    -Lower application temperature
    -Resists solvents, heat and mildew
    Unaffected by finishes
    Water cleanup & Non-toxic
    FDA approved for indirect food contact
    Sands easily without softening
    Safer than traditional waterproof glues
    Titebond:registered: III is especially useful for outdoor applications in cooler temperatures or when concern for substantial moisture calls for the use of a Type I glue. For interior applications, the longer working time of Titebond:registered: III provides woodworkers the necessary latitude to ensure that substrates are precisely aligned before being bonded. Overall, Titebond:registered: III combines superior strength, Type I water-resistance, long open time and low chalk temperature into one easy-to-use formulation.”
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    Default Re: What glue to use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kola View Post
    I use Cascamite for that.
    Now that is what I was taught to use nearly 45 years ago.
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    Default Re: What glue to use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Robbief View Post
    Now that is what I was taught to use nearly 45 years ago.
    Got that from my dad.

    But modern adhesives are likely much better now, so maybe time for me to change.

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    Default Re: What glue to use?

    Then my recipe for once you done with your final sanding use this and see how the grain comes alives. It’s expensive but it works.

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    Default Re: What glue to use?

    Just some pointers, if using hard woods it is always good to glue within a couple of hours of planing the wood, as the planing opens the pores and therefore creates a greater bond between the two surfaces. Also if using an oily wood like Blackwood.Click image for larger version. 

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    The attached both laminated Blackwood using alcolin ultra within an hour of going through the thicknesser.
    They even go in the dishwasher
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    Default Re: What glue to use?

    Other products that also work well, on any wood projects to be used with food products.

    https://mybutchersblock.co.za/collec...nd-maintenance
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    This is what i use. R140 per bottle. Good shelf life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbief View Post
    Now that is what I was taught to use nearly 45 years ago.
    Bet Dad also used the glue made from horse's hooves ?
    Now that stuck !!
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    Default Re: What glue to use?

    Some glues are water resistand, but I prefer to use a waterproof glue.
    Brummer Balcotan Waterproof Glue works for me!
    BALCOTAN 100 is a one part polyurethane based waterproof wood glue. Unlike the PVA Cold Glue which is only water resistant, BALCOTAN 100 is completely waterproof. It also has tremendous gap filling properties. BALCOTAN 100 is not affected by UV or any other outside elements. Bonds may be permanently submerged under water.

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    Thanks to everyone for your input, it seems I have a bit of homework to do now. And after reading the comments made by Iggi, it would seem that I have a lot to learn about wood.

    @ Iggi, (others are free to answer as well) the strips I am using are only roughly 50x40 x 150 long, how does one feed them through the thicknesser? Does a person not need a minimum length to make the feed work?
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    Default Re: What glue to use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirkba View Post
    Some glues are water resistand, but I prefer to use a waterproof glue.
    Brummer Balcotan Waterproof Glue works for me!
    BALCOTAN 100 is a one part polyurethane based waterproof wood glue. Unlike the PVA Cold Glue which is only water resistant, BALCOTAN 100 is completely waterproof. It also has tremendous gap filling properties. BALCOTAN 100 is not affected by UV or any other outside elements. Bonds may be permanently submerged under water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Eveleigh View Post
    Thanks to everyone for your input, it seems I have a bit of homework to do now. And after reading the comments made by Iggi, it would seem that I have a lot to learn about wood.

    @ Iggi, (others are free to answer as well) the strips I am using are only roughly 50x40 x 150 long, how does one feed them through the thicknesser? Does a person not need a minimum length to make the feed work?
    Hi Alan
    Only a pleasure, I normally start with a plank, that I send through the thicknesser then cut into slats and then glue and clamp, glueing the planed edges, Once dry I cut the leading and trailing edges off and then glue scraps to these edges to help feeding through the thicknesser and to prevent tear out where the spinning blade damages the edges.
    Unfortunately no pictures, but if you google tear out on chopping boards normal and end grain there is tons of helpful information.
    Not my picture or thicknesser but it will give you the idea.Click image for larger version. 

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    One tips for the thicknesser
    Always use sharp blades
    1/8 turns only
    Sacrificial pieces glued to front and back to prevent tearout
    Longer runners glued to side to prevent snipe on the cutting board and if glued right, provides flat reference to ensure perfectly flat board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbief View Post
    Now that is what I was taught to use nearly 45 years ago.
    Me too.
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    If all fails google ... flattering boards with a router
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    Default Re: What glue to use?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirkba View Post
    Some glues are water resistand, but I prefer to use a waterproof glue.
    Brummer Balcotan Waterproof Glue works for me!
    BALCOTAN 100 is a one part polyurethane based waterproof wood glue. Unlike the PVA Cold Glue which is only water resistant, BALCOTAN 100 is completely waterproof. It also has tremendous gap filling properties. BALCOTAN 100 is not affected by UV or any other outside elements. Bonds may be permanently submerged under water.
    I used to do rowing at school, and we used Balcotan to repair the wood hulled boats if they got damaged.
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    Default Re: What glue to use?

    I use Adtec Or Bondtec W150 (same thing) Manufactured in Edenvale.

    although its water resistant, its used by garage door manufactures and good enough for cutting boards.

    come in 500ml squeeze bottles or 25 lt drums.(6 month shelf life)

    cost effective compared to imported glue. Adtec 011 451 9800
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    Default Re: What glue to use?

    Cascamite is the best but you cant buy it in SA. Have to import as far as I know and i have really tried.

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