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    I'm sure you can physically measure the timing marks off in degrees, you just need a protractor or similar and a screwdriver to check TDC..
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    Uys ek weet nie veel nie ek is maar dom met die goed. Maar ek sal `n oomie met gryshare en `n dik bril soek. Een van daardie ou ooms wat met `n jas werk en nie `n oorpak nie. Daardie ou oomies wat shifting spanners met `n cutting torch stukkend sny.

    Vat die pomp vir so `n oom. Ek kan nie sien dat iemand sÍ die pomp is US voordat hy oop gemaak is nie. Die ou Bosch pompe is bitter eenvoudig. Dit is heel waarskynlik net `n check valve of `n plungertjie wat vassteek of dalk net `n stukkie roes of iets wat `n check valve oop hou.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grips View Post
    Uys ek weet nie veel nie ek is maar dom met die goed. Maar ek sal `n oomie met gryshare en `n dik bril soek. Een van daardie ou ooms wat met `n jas werk en nie `n oorpak nie. Daardie ou oomies wat shifting spanners met `n cutting torch stukkend sny.

    Vat die pomp vir so `n oom. Ek kan nie sien dat iemand sÍ die pomp is US voordat hy oop gemaak is nie. Die ou Bosch pompe is bitter eenvoudig. Dit is heel waarskynlik net `n check valve of `n plungertjie wat vassteek of dalk net `n stukkie roes of iets wat `n check valve oop hou.
    Ek weet nie van die bosh pompe van die fiats, myne het lucas, maar my internationals het sulke bosh pompe. Probleem op hulle is die head units. Daar is nie meer parte beskiskbaar as head unit gaan. Maar ek ook maar dom met pompe. Dra ook nie wit jas of bril nie. Wel overall.

    Gelukkig is daar alternatiewe opsies vir nie te duur.

    Hoop hy kom reg met kry van gepaste ou oomie.
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    Uys ,die fuel cut meganisme sit heel moontlik vas. Het so ruk terug op n vriend se Landini so geval gehad. Al trek jy die fuel cut lever van buite ,gebeur niks binne in pomp. Boonste dop af gehaal en meganisme net weer los gemaak.
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    Ja wel. Aangesien daar nou n alternatief is kan ek seker maar die pomp oopmaak en kyk.

    Almal met wie ek gepraat het se dis die head unit en daar is nie parte nie.

    Omies met wit jasse raak baie baie skaars! Ons lei hulle moes nie meer op nie!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uys View Post
    Ja wel. Aangesien daar nou n alternatief is kan ek seker maar die pomp oopmaak en kyk.

    Almal met wie ek gepraat het se dis die head unit en daar is nie parte nie.

    Omies met wit jasse raak baie baie skaars! Ons lei hulle moes nie meer op nie!
    Dan moet jy maar daai omie met die wit jas en dikbrille word....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ockert123 View Post
    Dan moet jy maar daai omie met die wit jas en dikbrille word....

    Ek het toe maar my Khaki hemp aangetrek, bril opgesit en gaan kyk. Die probleem is voor die hand liggend as jy die pomp oopmaak - die head unit se as het afgedraai.

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    Dit verklaar hoekom die diesel nie na die injectors toe gaan nie.


    Hoekom het hy afgedraai?





    Oor die water wat in die pomp vasgevang was.

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    Everything is a hammer.
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    Dra rÍrige boere nie meer two-tone hemde nie?
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    Dit lyk so effens unrepairable. Tyd vir Reenen se plan B.
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    Hy is moertoe. Oom met jas en bril sou hom weggooi en vir Reenen bel

    Uys ek dink dit is tyd dat jy weer daardie ou by die KO-OP gaan besoek. Die een wat die starter aan jou verkoop het.
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    Oppad van Kroonstad af:

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    Everything is a hammer.
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    Do you need new tyres ?Click image for larger version. 

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    If only.
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    OK, so this afternoon the package arrived. I had a meeting until 15h45 and was only able to work after that.

    The Bosch pump had a 2 bolt flange, the CAV has a 3 bolt flange. But the timng cover has 5 holes, so all you have to do is move the studs and then drill 2 new holes in the spacer between the pump and the timing cover.


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    Holes drilled. New Valoid gasket cut.

    Next, fit the pump, bolt it down.

    Fit the timing gear with the timing marks lining up:
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    Now here is where the trick comes: You have to line up the two 4's AND get the woodruff key into the gear. Now the Woodruff is pretty damn tight and doesn't come out of the shaft, but lining it up with the gear is bloody difficult because you only have that short piece of shaft sticking out to turn the pump to line these two up. On top of that the shaft is taper and is starting to bind, making it ore difficult to turn the pump shaft in the gear. Now here is where the first problem came in: The nut on the Bosch pump and the CAV is not the same - different shaft diameters. This is also the reason for the new gear. And no new nut was supplied. But to make it worse, this is a 16x1.25 nut, which cannot find in PTA. So a new one is on the way from Kroonstad via Courier Guy. If it wasn't for this I am sure I would have started it today

    So stopping there with the pump, the next step was to fit the injectors - easy.

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    But then I saw that one injector's connection looked like this:

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    And the other three looks like this:

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    I don't think it should be a problem, but I send the supplier a mail just to confirm.

    Next up all the pipes was re-connected. I had to bend the to fit on the new pump and no 4 was too shirt, so I had to take it back between the inlet manifold and the head to get it to fit.

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    So, so far:

    1. Pump is on. Diesel at the inlet of the pump.
    2. Timing is set - as far as I know.
    3. Injectors connected.


    Just waiting for the nut and it should start.....
    Last edited by Uys; 2020/08/13 at 06:12 PM.
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    I thought you were the nut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eloffmare View Post
    I thought you were the nut.

    Everything is a hammer.
    Unless it is a screw driver.

    Then it it a chisel.

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    Jy by HPA gekoop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenen View Post
    Jy by HPA gekoop?
    Ek het ja. Hoe ken ju hulle, dis darem baie ver van jou af.

    Hulle het die beste diens en pryse gehad.
    Everything is a hammer.
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    Net n courier ver weg. As mens self aan jou trekkers werk, ken jy elke spares handelaar.
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    It took me while to get to the point where I could post this, slightly embarrassed about it.

    The pump bolts onto the timing cover from the back with it's shaft pointing forward. Then you have to slide the gear over the shaft from the front lining up both the timing marks and the Woodruff key in the shaft. now the problem is that there is no way to turn the pump shaft once the drive gear is in position. So the timing marks line up, but the Woodruff key and the keyway in the gear does not. this means, take off the gear, make small adjustment to the WR key and try again- 200 times. So my solution was to punch a small mark on the front of the shaft so that I can see the position of the WR key better. This made a small indentation in the thread (M14*1.25) which prevented the nut from engaging. So I used a die grinder and just filed the tip down. No problem! Then I put the nut on, turned it by hand for about 4 revolutions until it stopped and then proceeded to tighten it with the socket. I torqued it and then though it was all good. A bit later, after connecting all the tubes, I just made sure the gear is tight before cranking and it was loose - but the nut was tight. I took it off to find this:

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    This was last week. SO I had two problems.

    1. The nut was buggered.
    2. The shaft is buggered.



    No 1 has an easy solution - or so I thought - buy a new nut. It took us 3 days to find a M14x1.25 nut. Eventually I got two - at R80/nut.

    No 2 - buy a die nut and re-cut or cut the top portion of the shaft off to get to the clean thread. Now consider that I am pretty much buggered, screwing up this pump further would have been difficult. Re-cutting still left me with the option of cutting the shaft off if required so that was first price.

    I got the die nut this afternoon and used a file to clean the first portion of the thread to help the die-nut engage. I was lucky and the die-nut ran perfectly into the good portion of the thread. It engages on 5 perfect threads and 1 re-cut one. It should be good. If all is done, I will locktite it.


    So why did this happen? No idea. My guess would be that a piece of filing go stuck on the thread and caused this problem.


    Last edited by Uys; 2020/08/18 at 08:33 PM.
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