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    Default 2014 GL350 Bluetec- Why not?

    Hi

    With the latest addition to our family we are in the market for a 7 seater which we would use on weekends and holidays.

    Im seriously considering a 2014 GL350 with 80k on the clock and had its last full motorplan service yesterday. Alot pf bells and whistles with offroad package etc.

    Am I mad? Should I rather go for a Fortuner or Everest?

    Why should I NOT buy the GL?
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    Default Re: 2014 GL350 Bluetec- Why not?

    Because it is MUCH slower than a new Defender in a drag race...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NetEddy View Post
    Hi

    With the latest addition to our family we are in the market for a 7 seater which we would use on weekends and holidays.

    Im seriously considering a 2014 GL350 with 80k on the clock and had its last full motorplan service yesterday. Alot pf bells and whistles with offroad package etc.

    Am I mad? Should I rather go for a Fortuner or Everest?

    Why should I NOT buy the GL?
    Depends on what you want to do with it.

    From my side, owning a luxury barge which I use for holidaying:

    1. It is a 1 million vehicle; expect repair bills to mirror the price tag
    2. It is awesomely comfortable, but you tend to shy away from the "more difficult" routes due to 1 above. Even though it can handle it, you the operator cannot

    Due to the above, I went back "old school".
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    Yep I read about the airmatic suspension that might go at some stage as well as the boot motor. I havent really seen any issues with other mayor components like gearbox or engine etc?

    Also, any third party warranties that are worth buying? Might help to soften the blow on anything mayor?

    The idea is really only to use it as a holiday and weekend family mover, mostly tar travelling but would also venture on the odd gravel roads every now and then. I dont think that I will want to do any mayor off roading with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NetEddy View Post
    Yep I read about the airmatic suspension that might go at some stage as well as the boot motor. I havent really seen any issues with other mayor components like gearbox or engine etc?

    Also, any third party warranties that are worth buying? Might help to soften the blow on anything mayor?

    The idea is really only to use it as a holiday and weekend family mover, mostly tar travelling but would also venture on the odd gravel roads every now and then. I dont think that I will want to do any mayor off roading with it.
    As a side note, if I remember correctly, Johan Maree here on the forum got quoted something in the region of 80-100k for a turbo replacement. So yeah, very nice cars, but if you buy a luxury car, expect to pay luxury prices for repairs.

    I only realized now, Johan has a G350, not GL, but I guess the engines would be similar.
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    I am a big fan of Mercs in general, and the GL is no exception. I think they are amazing cars, powerful, very comfortable, efficient and reliable. Having owned Mercs before, they tend to be more expensive to maintain (regular maintenance - brakes, services etc) compared to some of the more appliance-like vehicles.In terms of ride and build quality its up there with the best. (very close to number 1) and should give you many many happy trouble-free miles. But yes, its soft as far as offroad and 4x4 is concerned. Parts are expensive (like other luxury cars) and should be factored in - but I would not consider these cars so unreliable that this should be the deciding factor. great second hand value vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lizardalpha View Post
    As a side note, if I remember correctly, Johan Maree here on the forum got quoted something in the region of 80-100k for a turbo replacement. So yeah, very nice cars, but if you buy a luxury car, expect to pay luxury prices for repairs.
    ....like any other luxury car. I am sure you'll pay a fair amount for a Prado D4D blown turbo as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boesman88 View Post
    ....like any other luxury car. I am sure you'll pay a fair amount for a Prado D4D blown turbo as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NetEddy View Post
    Hi

    With the latest addition to our family we are in the market for a 7 seater which we would use on weekends and holidays.

    Im seriously considering a 2014 GL350 with 80k on the clock and had its last full motorplan service yesterday. Alot pf bells and whistles with offroad package etc.

    Am I mad? Should I rather go for a Fortuner or Everest?

    Why should I NOT buy the GL?
    I had a look at the GL before buying the Q7 but the GL500 as the 350 felt a bit pap. Stunning vehicle but it feel as big as it looks on the road, also got the nagging feeling that I should be wearing a big flashy gold chain when I drove it.

    As per the others remember your are buying a R1m + vehicle for cheap but the repair bills are still that of a R1mil vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NetEddy View Post

    The idea is really only to use it as a holiday and weekend family mover, mostly tar travelling but would also venture on the odd gravel roads every now and then. I dont think that I will want to do any mayor off roading with it.
    In the end, these cars are just not "built" for use in these conditions often! And I speak from experience. I am not talking mechanical. That will be bullet proof. But the fittings and fixtures

    Some stuff I am seeing on the Treg. And I USE it:

    1. paint flaking on the front spoiler. I think this is caused by gravel/dust travel
    2. chipping of paint on side skirts, again gravel

    This will happen to all cars, but to fix the above paint job will be expensive compared to your lower luxury, purpose built 4x4's. But, what I am also noticing is the extreme quality. Not one little rust spot in any of these chips or on the chassis
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    I have a 2014 350 Bluetec with 65000km on it. BEST CAR Iíve owned....by a country mile! No issues with it yet. Had its last motorplan service last month. Will see what happens from here........

    Extremely comfortable and surprisingly frugal ..... 8.3l/km on 1800km trip December. I have a good technician who is a merc specialist and on my MLs never cost more than R3500-4000 for a service

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    Quote Originally Posted by NetEddy View Post
    Hi

    With the latest addition to our family we are in the market for a 7 seater which we would use on weekends and holidays.

    Im seriously considering a 2014 GL350 with 80k on the clock and had its last full motorplan service yesterday. Alot pf bells and whistles with offroad package etc.

    Am I mad? Should I rather go for a Fortuner or Everest?

    Why should I NOT buy the GL?
    I went for a GL because "dead fish follow the stream"

    Take a Innovation warranty with top up option.

    Then:
    -They are VERY capable (makes de Wildt boring) the traction control is just amazing, and if it is REALLY necessary, you can use the difflock.
    -Depending what wheels yours have on, I swopped my 21" for 20" and added Cooper Zeon LTZ 275/55x20. I have now done 80000km on them and still plenty tread left.
    -Air bellows on the shocks will start leaking on aprox 150000km. Will start with right front, right rear, left rear and lastly left front. I believe it happens this way because compressor is closest to right front bellow/shock (all of them was covered by the warranty)
    -Turbo may begin sweating oil on 170/180k km. Richard from R Automech (M.Benz specialist) in Gezina fitted new (original) turbo for less than R40k (covered by warranty)
    -Lift the right rear SAM unit up into the space where it is installed, for some reason water (only very little) comes into this space, and makes havoc with this unit.
    -They have unmatched ground clearance. with std wheels 285mm (mine with Coopers on now at 310mm)
    -Ask Richard to do the software and exhaust. Power goes from 190kw to 220kw and nm from 620 to 700+ something. (this amazing...)
    -Only downfall for me , they DON'T like water crossings, and you get hardly any aftermarket toys/groceries for them. You will have to have everything made custom. (think snorkel, spare wheel swingarm, etc etc)

    This is all I can think of now, my 1st coffee is not finished yet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegro View Post
    I went for a GL because "dead fish follow the stream"

    Take a Innovation warranty with top up option.

    Then:
    -They are VERY capable (makes de Wildt boring) the traction control is just amazing, and if it is REALLY necessary, you can use the difflock.
    -Depending what wheels yours have on, I swopped my 21" for 20" and added Cooper Zeon LTZ 275/55x20. I have now done 80000km on them and still plenty tread left.
    -Air bellows on the shocks will start leaking on aprox 150000km. Will start with right front, right rear, left rear and lastly left front. I believe it happens this way because compressor is closest to right front bellow/shock (all of them was covered by the warranty)
    -Turbo may begin sweating oil on 170/180k km. Richard from R Automech (M.Benz specialist) in Gezina fitted new (original) turbo for less than R40k (covered by warranty)
    -Lift the right rear SAM unit up into the space where it is installed, for some reason water (only very little) comes into this space, and makes havoc with this unit.
    -They have unmatched ground clearance. with std wheels 285mm (mine with Coopers on now at 310mm)
    -Ask Richard to do the software and exhaust. Power goes from 190kw to 220kw and nm from 620 to 700+ something. (this amazing...)
    -Only downfall for me , they DON'T like water crossings, and you get hardly any aftermarket toys/groceries for them. You will have to have everything made custom. (think snorkel, spare wheel swingarm, etc etc)

    This is all I can think of now, my 1st coffee is not finished yet...
    Very good description Allegro.

    At the right price with your eyes open, I would.

    I also agree with Nys it can do all the difficult pieces but would you want to.
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    I currently have two GL320CDIís both 2007 models the first one is up for sale now. As mentioned before very capable... It remains very good value as I paid R140k for one with 148 000km on the clock. Things that tend to fail includes bellows as well as the front shocks (when doing lots of gravel) which can be pricey to be replace. The air compressor might also be replaced and if you want a good as new ride replacing lower and upper control arms will make a big difference. I also replaced a turbo but that was preventable as the rubber that connects the air flow sensor (bat wings) with the turbo disintegrates and should be checked regularly. Replacement cost on reconned turbo was R17k through Richard from Rautomech. I recon these costs are factored into the purchase price... I also realized that one shouldnít worry to much about small niggles on these old cars just drive and enjoy it. We did some lovely trips with our first one.. we donít do serious 4x4 trails and mostly tar or dirt roads - lovely on the tar as well. My strategy is to drive mine for another 3 years then buy the 2014 model - already drooling

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    I have a 2009 GL350cdi with 80,000km on the clock.

    Biggest repair I had so far was the injectors that had to be done, but this was abnormal for the low km's. Not sure if previous owner used some dirty diesel or what? Also replaced the right front air bellow for R6000. Apart from that no major issues. I got it for about 30% of it's price new. Even with the repairs, it still does not come CLOSE to the cheapest 4x4 7seater new, that is not nearly as comfortable/capable. I doubt it will ever will.

    Also swapped my 19"rims for 20" as you do not get A/T in 19". I currently have 285/50/20 on.

    Do daily gravel with it. VERY comfortable.

    Very capable off-road, with center and rear Diff-Lock. Been in some sticky situations, or so I thought, but the car made it feel easy. Next time I will pour myself a cup of coffee while the car does it's thing. Especially the Diesel, just put it in low-range and let it idle down hill while the others in the group burn their brakes.

    The 500 petrol has way more speed, and some more luxuries, but it is thirsty. Both are great, I just took the Diesel because of the low KM's when we bought it.

    It is a great towing vehicle.
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    Apologies for slight hi-jack of thread

    On some tyre supplier websites they earmark a 255/55 R19 as a suitable option for the GL - anyone tried this before?

    Thanks Francois

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirkL View Post
    I have a 2009 GL350cdi with 80,000km on the clock.

    Biggest repair I had so far was the injectors that had to be done, but this was abnormal for the low km's. Not sure if previous owner used some dirty diesel or what? .....
    I religiously add a bottle of Wynns diesel injector cleaner every 5000km since day 1 I started driving diesels. Never had any issues with injectors, even fueling abroad at suspect stations (Moz, Botswana, Nam, Tanzania etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NetEddy View Post
    Hi

    With the latest addition to our family we are in the market for a 7 seater which we would use on weekends and holidays.

    Im seriously considering a 2014 GL350 with 80k on the clock and had its last full motorplan service yesterday. Alot pf bells and whistles with offroad package etc.

    Am I mad? Should I rather go for a Fortuner or Everest?

    Why should I NOT buy the GL?
    Life's boring. Why get a Fortuner or Prado that will never break... Where's the fun in that 😜?

    On a serious note though, I have seen many ML350 bluetecs traversing East African roads since they were produced till now, I know some pals with them and they do not seem to be complaining. I believe the GL is only an elongated ML hence should also be just fine.

    If previous owner looked after it well, you are good to go. So just make sure of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allegro View Post
    I went for a GL because "dead fish follow the stream"

    Take a Innovation warranty with top up option.

    Then:
    -They are VERY capable (makes de Wildt boring) the traction control is just amazing, and if it is REALLY necessary, you can use the difflock.
    -Depending what wheels yours have on, I swopped my 21" for 20" and added Cooper Zeon LTZ 275/55x20. I have now done 80000km on them and still plenty tread left.
    -Air bellows on the shocks will start leaking on aprox 150000km. Will start with right front, right rear, left rear and lastly left front. I believe it happens this way because compressor is closest to right front bellow/shock (all of them was covered by the warranty)
    -Turbo may begin sweating oil on 170/180k km. Richard from R Automech (M.Benz specialist) in Gezina fitted new (original) turbo for less than R40k (covered by warranty)
    -Lift the right rear SAM unit up into the space where it is installed, for some reason water (only very little) comes into this space, and makes havoc with this unit.
    -They have unmatched ground clearance. with std wheels 285mm (mine with Coopers on now at 310mm)
    -Ask Richard to do the software and exhaust. Power goes from 190kw to 220kw and nm from 620 to 700+ something. (this amazing...)
    -Only downfall for me , they DON'T like water crossings, and you get hardly any aftermarket toys/groceries for them. You will have to have everything made custom. (think snorkel, spare wheel swingarm, etc etc)

    This is all I can think of now, my 1st coffee is not finished yet...

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