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    Quote Originally Posted by WAJ View Post
    just PC talk for libtard is my best guess....
    Pretty much. But libtards can't call themselves Libtards so had to find a trendy word for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    The voters at grass roots levels have 100 years of ANC indoctrination behind them: they won't believe it anyway.
    Not so...In the early 70's, the IFP had more support and members than the ANC.

    The ANC actively adopted a grassroots insurgency, (read terrorism), as a way to take over in SA.

    The Europeans, Sweden, Finland, Norway actively supported this , without even considering the IFP, who were actually the most supported and relevant black political party of the time.

    If SA had elections in 1970, the IFP would have won, but the ANC would have carried on with the insurgency, despite the legitimacy of the black IFP government.

    The UK did the same in Rhodesia, supporting bob as opposed to Sithole, who had more support than bob..

    The big problem with Europeans is that they want to apply European logic and thinking to Africa without understanding that Africa is 100 years behind Europe on the democracy maturity scale...

    The Europeans gave the ANC the noble legitimacy the ANC wanted but did not deserve. This nobility and legitimacy was then fronted , "poster boy", by Mandela.

    In short , the ANC are communists that are still carrying on with their ultimate goal of transforming SA to a 1960s style communist state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    The voters at grass roots levels have 100 years of ANC indoctrination behind them: they won't believe it anyway.
    That's for the old ones. Old is may be 40+ ?

    Youthful ones who are the lion's share of the voters may actually listen. Those have a whole many years ahead of them and deep inside they want a better life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NewLandy View Post

    The big problem with Europeans is that they want to apply European logic and thinking to Africa without understanding that Africa is 100 years behind Europe on the democracy maturity scale...
    I think you're being generous, I estimate closer to 500 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by byaru1 View Post
    Youthful ones who are the lion's share of the voters may actually listen. Those have a whole many years ahead of them and deep inside they want a better life.
    Nope, you're thinking about the small middle class. The EFF is winning votes for a very good reason: the youth wants it, they want it NOW, and the want it FOR FREE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by byaru1 View Post
    That's for the old ones. Old is may be 40+ ?

    Youthful ones who are the lion's share of the voters may actually listen. Those have a whole many years ahead of them and deep inside they want a better life.
    I disagree. It's not 40+'s burning and plundering learning institutes. A better life does not start with you burning down your school. I see you reside in Kenya, maybe it applies to Kenya more, definitely not here in SA

    In SA, unfortunately, politics are not defined by what a party can offer you or the country, but sadly still very much by race. It's a mentality implanted in to people from an early stage. Some parties are seen as white, some of colour and so forth. The cANCer sheep will always be there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byaru1 View Post
    That's for the old ones. Old is may be 40+ ?

    Youthful ones who are the lion's share of the voters may actually listen. Those have a whole many years ahead of them and deep inside they want a better life.
    Case in point from yesterday.

    https://mobserver.co.za/126302/watch...room-entrance/

    "It is not clear why protesters took to the streets. One rumour is that the youth are unhappy about a lack of job opportunities in the area. "

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    Quote Originally Posted by WAJ View Post
    I suspect I am fast asleep....

    I dunno what woke means - just PC talk for libtard is my best guess....
    Woke is a politically correctalternative to "stupid" or "retarded".
    The act of being very pretentious about how much you care about a social issue
    Being "Woke" is what happens when instead of taking one blue pill, you down the entire bottle.
    To wake up in past tense.
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    There comes a point, where a government can no longer be considered legitimate......

    I believe we have reached that point.....

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    I have never been of the opinion that this terrorist government of ours is legitimate, but that said - they will NEVER relinquish power quietly without serious bloodshed, even if they lose at the polls....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WAJ View Post
    I have never been of the opinion that this terrorist government of ours is legitimate, but that said - they will NEVER relinquish power quietly without serious bloodshed, even if they lose at the polls....
    ANC=Zanu-PF essentially.

    Rape, pillage, steal, destroy, burn down, trash the country at will with no regard for the remaining 35% that DONT want them as a Government.

    Time for self determination, and not WHITE determination, LAW ABIDING CITIZEN determination. We that are of like mindedness should annex the Western and Northern Cape and leave the rest of the country to Zuma, Ramaposa, Dlamini-Zuma, Magashule and Malema to f**k up to their hearts content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caracal View Post
    ANC=Zanu-PF essentially.

    Rape, pillage, steal, destroy, burn down, trash the country at will with no regard for the remaining 35% that DONT want them as a Government.

    Time for self determination, and not WHITE determination, LAW ABIDING CITIZEN determination. We that are of like mindedness should annex the Western and Northern Cape and leave the rest of the country to Zuma, Ramaposa, Dlamini-Zuma, Magashule and Malema to f**k up to their hearts content.
    Then we should start now, as the WC is being invaded by anc commanded hordes of thugs from the EC to destabilise the province and get it back to an anc ruined province...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sias View Post
    Then we should start now, as the WC is being invaded by anc commanded hordes of thugs from the EC to destabilise the province and get it back to an anc ruined province...
    So where are you guys. We been working on this for two years, and it was not soon enough. But we have got some good people together. We have a few high court cases ongoing against the goverment already, sponsored by a mere 25000 people, some of them not even in ZA. We have just delivered a writ by which we no longer recognise these clowns as our governance.

    Please go check out the writings of Dr Peter Hammond. He has assisted a fair few countrie's minority groups to independance, and the movement and creation of new borders.

    Most people think we can only "win" by overthrowing the ruling party at the poles. For what, to take back the dump, and burned/raped land they have created. We can't be part of that, and I am embarrassed to be a citizen of such a country, so I am withdrawing. The people that want them in power, can go live under them. We will create a new place for ourselves. If there is one thing we used to be able to do, is improvise and adapt, but I don't know how much of that is left in this sheeple society that you have become. I see this with my family, a simple thing like not knowing how they are going to manage without someone else to clean their house and fix their gardens. What have we become I'm 53, but I do my own stuff, just because I won't support the majority anymore.

    You guys have some big decisions to make, and fast. In fact, it is probably already to late.
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    Allow me to ruffle some feathers:

    1. We are complaining about reaching new lows.
    2. We are complaining about service delivery.
    3. We are complaining about schools.
    4. We are complaining about safety and security.
    5. We are complaining about the ANC.


    But what are we doing?
    1. We keep paying our rates and taxes.
    2. We don't use solar, water tanks, recycling and community refuse removal - how many unemployed people live in our communities who we can pay to do this with the rates and tax monies.
    3. Why are our children not in schools with a wall of parents around the school protecting them - and protesting about the ridiculous lock down rules.
    4. How many of those complaining here carry hand guns? How many are skilled in self defense? Do you have a emergency plan for your family? Do you teach your children to look out for danger, to warn you if they see something suspicious in parking areas, at Spar, OK, wherever. Farm attacks is a massive issue at this stage and if affects me and you almost more than the farmer begin killed (except of course for the dying part). I get onto farms quite often. Some have proper fences (like I do in Centurion), alarms (like I do in Centurion), lights (like I do in Centurion) and dogs (again, like I do in Centurion). They are prepared, carry self defense weapons. But then you get onto farms with a normal 4ft fence (with the bottom 3 lines missing) - no lights, no alarm, and they ask if what you are scared off when they see your SD weapon. Having all of these does not mean you won't get attacked, just like brushing your teeth does not mean you won't get rotten teeth - but you still brush your teeth. We've had a couple of burglaries in our street a couple of months back - then everybody wants guards, radios, meetings etc.... But two weeks later all is gone and people are no longer interested in attending a meeting to discuss deterrents. I remember my father doing farm patrols back in the 80's - to keep us save. What are we doing? I sit under a bush on our pavement twice a week. I get up when I hear the dogs going crazy - so far I've prevented two burglaries in our street so far. Imagine every able bodied man doing this, quickly we'll drive the tsotis out our our neighborhoods. It is easy to say it is the police's job. But lets call it as it is: They don't care about white people. Hell, most of them don't even care about black people.
    5. Complaining about the ANC: Tell me what is the alternative? We (whites) don't have a leader. We need a Kruger, a De La Rey, a Smit.



    Maybe it is easy for me to talk, I have a good job (work increased through lock down). I live in a good area. I LOVE guns. So call me privileged if you want - but before you do tell me this: What are you doing to better your situation and the situation in the country.
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    Well said Uys. Problem is, it has gone too far. Now to pull back too hard, is seen as racist, and rebelling, and even treason.

    Here is what I don't do
    I don't support the ANC in any way by paying taxes. Hell, I have even withdrawn from the financial system, and don't use Ronds unless I need to go buy stuff at Spar

    I don't live in a place where it is unsafe for me, or where kids can play outside without fearing for their safety. I'm sitting here watching kids playing on the swings in the park. Parents are busy with daily stuff, and know the kids are safe.

    Although not there yet, our entire community will be moving onto solar, so eskom can take a hike.

    We rotate guard duty and walk the farm through the night. We go shooting regularly, and everybody goes along.

    BUT, even in this environment, we have people that do not bring their part. The white man has gotten rotten, and absorbed in nothing else than his own little world. So much so, that he did not even see how bad things have become. He lives in his protective cocoon, fed lies and censored news by the media machine.

    It's frightening for me when I do leave the farm, to see the "zombies" out there. And when we speak to them, they say that it's thr new normal and you must adapt. And that is how the population have become sheeple, and us that are looking after ourselves, are radicals.

    Wish there was a way to open people's eyes.
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    Uys I look at this 4x4 pub and remember how active it was with the positive political post ect.
    These posts are dead quiet.Its as if we have accepted the inevitable outcome that the evil forces have won.

    I am sure many are feeling utterly frustrated. But with covid you cant even march in protest. BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.

    But what.? What can the average man in the street do to cause change. I tell my maid whats going on but I sense she is just being polite but probably believes I am just a bitter white man who is unhappy that someone like Aces children are successful businessmen .

    Its hard to change things when there are such huge differences in culture.

    But what can we do.?If every business ,big and small could one day wake up and tell their employees that there is no work and no pay until they join a big mass protest and no taxes of any sort are going to get paid ,maybe these arrogant assholes in power will loot less.

    I know what Im saying is ridiculous but they will not listen to anyone unless something is burnt .I believe its better to resort to absolute chaos for a while rather than let a slow destruction takes its poisonous path.

    Just imagine if Rhamaphosa gets covid and a guy like Ace or Mabusa take over . God forbid this country will suffer.
    We are just spineless. Its as simple as that.

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    Well said plunger, we are spineless.

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    Well are we, we only 10% if that.
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    See Cyril has appointed a cabinet committee to investigate PPE tender corruption.

    Useless like the Zonda commission. All smoke and mirrors to show something while nothing is been done.

    Unless we soon see ANC big shots in orange overalls the stealing and looting will continue.

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