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    Enige mediahuis volg ń vooropgestelde ideologie/politiekestroom.

    Geeneen is totaal objektief nie. Die uiteenlopende kommentare hierbo bewys dat ons as individue dieselfde strominge volg.

    Ek het baie jare gelede in Staatsleer 3 geleer dat die media kŠn openbare mening manipuleer. Vandag is dit steeds waar en baie duidelik. So kan Beeld, Cape Argus en Sowetan NOOIT dieselfde strekking aan dieselfde storie gee nie. Ons moet dit maar aanvaar as feit. As jy van een se strekking nie hou nie beweeg aan. Deur hom te kritiseer maak jy net jouself moeg. Soek die huis waar jy tuis voel en bly daar.

    Dis moeilik maar waar.

    Onthou ook dat dis net deur die media waar ons inligting vandaan kry. NÍrens anders nie. Lees die feite en ignoreer die kommentaar, of laat toe dat jy subtiel gebreinspoel word.
    Kyk terug hoe is die Beirutbom uitmekaar gepluk deur elkeen wat sy eie stempel wou afdruk. En toe is dit net ń vrag +NH3 wat lankal verwyder moes word. Tragies maar waar. Net die feite was belangrik, nie die kommentare nie.
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    Google news is gratis.

    Dit vat artikels van al die media huise.
    Dit volg jou keuses ligweg maar hoof stories word nogsteeds gewys.
    Dit mis wel die "kleiner stories" soos die plaasmoorde, as dit nie groot nuus is nie.

    As jy die plaasmoorde volg sal dit makliker op die nuus verskein.
    Party artikels kan nie oopgemaak word nie AGV subskripsies, maar daar is gewoonlik ander media huise wat dit ook volg.

    Dit het 'n afdeling vir jou, hoofnuus, wÍreld, finansies,sport, tegnologie, vermaak en wetenskap.

    Nie die beste nie maar ek het iets onafhangklik gesoek.
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    They actually answered very fast. Couple hours.

    That user name is most probably associated with comments made. Names are spelled with capital...

    I pick up 5 c piece on a street. I can claim the VAT even without full VAT invoice but I should be able to get one if I ask for one. It is R75 per month. Take 12 times. Check how much is VAT claim on that plus 28%.

    You look after the cents and millions will follow.

    There is no reason not to set up a system correctly.

    I have an other company from whom I ordered an item over R5000.00. They have no system to issue full VAT invoice. By law they must be able. Under the VAT law I cannot claim the VAT without full VAT invoice. This company is not small. I have had an issue with a big law firm. They wanted me to pay on Proforma Statement of Account. I said no. They said I must. I said call your VAT specialist now. I did get the invoice. When company doesn't issue proper invoice there is a good possibility for fraud.

    On the card issue there is possibility of double charge as you cannot change the card details without first cancelling the subscription and then subscribing. I do not pay double.

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    No.
    Really not that bad man.

    You get reminded when your card is nearing renewal.

    Why is case sensitive so important? Only you see your username.

    Is VAT on R100/month a big issue?

    I enjoy the service and save quite a few bucks per month to not to worry about a VAT issue.
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    News24 has never been my no 1 go to, and I doubt I will ever pay for news in todays age of digital media. When I source news I usually follow this sequence as per bookmarks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian.McM View Post
    Would the same argument not apply in terms of print media, which we all accepted at the time we had to pay for? What is different now?

    I find the concept that everything should be given for free, because we feel we are entitled to it, the first step towards a dangerous slide into a socialist system.
    Remember, in paid printed media, there are a lot of costs involved. It is not cheap to print. And yes, they also recovered some money from advertising, but I would have to guess that it was just not quite enough.

    When online, your expenses are a lot less, and they bombard you with adverts. Heck, even their videos have adverts. So now you expect us to pay, and still bombard us with adverts.
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    Please take an old paper or magazine - pre internet mass advertising and count the pages for advertising and pages for articles. You will see many papers were more adverts than articles. Then add paid notices, "afternoon tea company", death notices, car sales... It was worse than what you get now.

    Online subscription is less than paper.

    Quote Originally Posted by lizardalpha View Post
    Remember, in paid printed media, there are a lot of costs involved. It is not cheap to print. And yes, they also recovered some money from advertising, but I would have to guess that it was just not quite enough.

    When online, your expenses are a lot less, and they bombard you with adverts. Heck, even their videos have adverts. So now you expect us to pay, and still bombard us with adverts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jouko View Post
    Online subscription is less than paper.
    And for that R100/m you have access to a large number of other (digital) media, at no extra charge. Way less than what you usually paid for your newspaper delivered at home
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanMaree View Post
    And for that R100/m you have access to a large number of other (digital) media, at no extra charge. Way less than what you usually paid for your newspaper delivered at home
    You, Huisgenoot, Drum and Bona?

    No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohanMaree View Post
    And for that R100/m you have access to a large number of other (digital) media, at no extra charge. Way less than what you usually paid for your newspaper delivered at home
    Dis so Johan, maar jo ek het nie tyd vir al die leesstof nie. Ek het by netwerk24 aangesluit vir R109/maand om die landbou weekblad te kry maar kon net nie die koste regverdig vir slegs die een tydskrif wat ek regtig in belangstel nie. Ek het gestop en kry nou dit deur Magzter (slegs LWB) en darem vir heelwat goedkoper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizardalpha View Post
    Remember, in paid printed media, there are a lot of costs involved. It is not cheap to print. And yes, they also recovered some money from advertising, but I would have to guess that it was just not quite enough.

    When online, your expenses are a lot less, and they bombard you with adverts. Heck, even their videos have adverts. So now you expect us to pay, and still bombard us with adverts.
    Yep. Click thru, banner ads, you name it, and then half the time the grammar and spelling is atrocious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olyfboer View Post
    You, Huisgenoot, Drum and Bona?

    No thanks.
    Very selective info you are conveying. (Why?)
    You also get Weg!, Weg Ry en Sleep, Finweek, and for the other family members - Sarie, Kuier, Tuis and Baba. And some 40 regional papers as well.
    Whilst I do not read the majority of them, other people may well do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    Yep. Click thru, banner ads, you name it, and then half the time the grammar and spelling is atrocious.
    Jip. Look, for those that want to subscribe, do so, it is after all a free world (well, except for the Government telling us what we can and cannot do). I however expect proper quality if I have to start paying, and cannot justify paying that price for News24. To be honest, I don't read the other magazines, and they can keep their opinion pieces as well, as I don't care for their opinions.

    Netflix for example is what, 170 bucks for the premium version, and I get no adds, youtube premium is what, 70 bucks per month, and I get no adds, so why would I pay News24 80 bucks to still see adds?

    At the very least, stop showing adds to your subscribers and do proper editing if you want to charge for a service.
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    Watching only Netflix will result in very interesting discussions - maybe even political. Before studies I worked in a sheet metal factory. Many ladies worked there also. Half a day was discussed what happened in this or that soapie For some ladies those soapies were the life. And yes. Blokes had their own discussions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatjohan View Post
    Very selective info you are conveying. (Why?)
    You also get Weg!, Weg Ry en Sleep, Finweek, and for the other family members - Sarie, Kuier, Tuis and Baba. And some 40 regional papers as well.
    Whilst I do not read the majority of them, other people may well do so.
    Why not charge separately for each? The 1980's business model of the DSTV bouquet idea all over again when people watch very few channels but pay for all. Same with all those magazines that seem like a good idea at the moment. But let me leave you with this:

    Here's what the media company is proposing in its magazine portfolio:

    • Closing the following magazines: Move! and the Hearst portfolio publications, which include Menís Health, Womenís Health, Bicycling, Runnerís World.


    • Publish DRUM magazine in digital format only.


    • Enter into a licensing agreement with editor Helen SchŲer to publish the parenting titles (Baba & Kleuter and Your Pregnancy) independently.


    • Outsource the editorial production of the remaining monthly magazine: Fairlady, SARIE, SA Hunter/Jagter, True Love, tuis | home, Weg! | go! and Weg! Ry & Sleep | go! Drive & Camp, as well as the fortnightly Kuier.


    • Monthly titles will only get six issues per year, and eight issues for tuis | home, SA Hunter/Jagter and Man Magnum.


    • Flagship weeklies Huisgenoot, YOU and Landbouweekblad will continue to be produced and published in-house.

    Here's what the media company is proposing in its newspaper portfolio:

    • The following newspapers will be closed: Close Son op Sondag, Sunday Sun, and the Eastern Cape edition of Son.


    • Volksblad and Die Burger Oos-Kaap will be published as weekday digital editions only, available as complete PDFs on Netwerk24.


    • Close four community newspapers in KwaZulu-Natal: Amanzimtoti Fever, East Griqualand Fever, Hillcrest Fever and Maritzburg Fever.


    • Noordkaap and Kalahari Bulletin will be consolidated into a single newspaper called Noordkaap Bulletin.


    • Kroonnuus and Vrystaat Nuus which will become Vrystaat Kroonnuus.


    • Theewaterskloof Gazette will be incorporated into Hermanus Times.


    • The digital transition of The Witness will be accelerated.

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    Ons leef in 'n snelveranderende wÍreld. Onderwerpe wat nooit op hierdie forum bespreek is nie trek nou vol sale.

    Ek het voorheen genoem die wÍreld probeer vir almal plek maak. Nodeloos om te sÍ, nie almal sal met alles tevrede wees nie.

    Ons moet maar kies in watter groef ons gaan inpas, want groewe gaan daar wees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olyfboer View Post
    Why not charge separately for each? The 1980's business model of the DSTV bouquet idea all over again when people watch very few channels but pay for all. Same with all those magazines that seem like a good idea at the moment. But let me leave you with this:

    Here's what the media company is proposing in its magazine portfolio:

    • Closing the following magazines: Move! and the Hearst portfolio publications, which include Men’s Health, Women’s Health, Bicycling, Runner’s World.


    • Publish DRUM magazine in digital format only.


    • Enter into a licensing agreement with editor Helen SchŲer to publish the parenting titles (Baba & Kleuter and Your Pregnancy) independently.


    • Outsource the editorial production of the remaining monthly magazine: Fairlady, SARIE, SA Hunter/Jagter, True Love, tuis | home, Weg! | go! and Weg! Ry & Sleep | go! Drive & Camp, as well as the fortnightly Kuier.


    • Monthly titles will only get six issues per year, and eight issues for tuis | home, SA Hunter/Jagter and Man Magnum.


    • Flagship weeklies Huisgenoot, YOU and Landbouweekblad will continue to be produced and published in-house.

    Here's what the media company is proposing in its newspaper portfolio:

    • The following newspapers will be closed: Close Son op Sondag, Sunday Sun, and the Eastern Cape edition of Son.


    • Volksblad and Die Burger Oos-Kaap will be published as weekday digital editions only, available as complete PDFs on Netwerk24.


    • Close four community newspapers in KwaZulu-Natal: Amanzimtoti Fever, East Griqualand Fever, Hillcrest Fever and Maritzburg Fever.


    • Noordkaap and Kalahari Bulletin will be consolidated into a single newspaper called Noordkaap Bulletin.


    • Kroonnuus and Vrystaat Nuus which will become Vrystaat Kroonnuus.


    • Theewaterskloof Gazette will be incorporated into Hermanus Times.


    • The digital transition of The Witness will be accelerated.

    Yes, I am well aware of the changes - and these won't be the last as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hatjohan View Post
    Very selective info you are conveying. (Why?)
    You also get Weg!, Weg Ry en Sleep, Finweek, and for the other family members - Sarie, Kuier, Tuis and Baba. And some 40 regional papers as well.
    Whilst I do not read the majority of them, other people may well do so.
    Johan, when I was in my 40's, I subscribed to Weg/Go and Weg Ry/Driveout. In later years I found them quite banal and irrelevant to my interests and needs. Half of what I bought was advertising that I never read either. I have never bought anything inspired by an advertisement except for accommodation ads in Country Life.

    Sarie, Kuier, Tuis and Baba are definitely not on my nor my wife's reading list. Banal as well. I get all the information I need right on this forum, even on vacuum cleaners.

    For intellectual stimulation I will visit the non fiction sections of Exclusive Books, Wordsworth Books and Bargain Books in Cape Town twice a year. I need to like the look and feel of a book as well as it's contents and I hate reading books on a screen. I have the ability to remember where information is and can walk to a book and open it more or less at the place information is that I need, even years later. I can't do that on a screen.

    Regarding news, I only read news on the internet. I read a variety of sites to get a balanced view of a subject. All of them are free. i will not pay for news and neither will many others. Some overseas sites just ask me to disable my ad blocker, which is fair.

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