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    What happened to Lion.

    Is it just me or is the quality of the Lion match considerably lower than before they put on the extra strong sign?

    Maybe even unusable in some cases..

    Damn.. another one bytes the dust!

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    Have been noticing how poor they become for a couple years now.... Seems quality, is no longer a concern to any business.

    Let me not start with canned foods - like All Gold or Koo going to the dogs as well... there are many such examples.
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    Hi Ben

    An odd question, but where did you buy those matches?

    I read on the forum that matches (of all things) are one of the most prevalent fakes?

    In fact they even have a web page on it!
    https://www.lionmatch.co.za/pages/74...safety-matches

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    Quote Originally Posted by WAJ View Post
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    Let me not start with canned foods - like All Gold or Koo going to the dogs as well... there are many such examples.
    WAJ, care to explain what specifically you're talking about. I have a slight vested interest here (can't say more at the moment)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    WAJ, care to explain what specifically you're talking about. I have a slight vested interest here (can't say more at the moment)

    PM if you wish

    Well, as one example, I have always bought Koo or Allgold tomato & onion relish in cans that I put on my pap.

    They were nice full of tomatoes and onions - in the past not very watery.

    But these days (and I am talking the last 5 or more years now) they are so very very diluted with water, very little onions or tomatoes in there, also to add to that the skins of the tomatoes USED to be removed but now its all in there. Well, I have stopped buying those brand all together and now just buy Rhodes products as they are still reasonably good quality.

    I also noticed the very distinct lack of cheese on romans pizza - not even talking lock-down, this I observed long before already. I have been buying romans for a very very long time, even when there names was still Little Ceasers or some such.

    Nee wat, manufacturers think consumers are stupid, and in 80% of cases they might be right, but I am not in that percentile.
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    Also only buy Rhodes t&o cans, the 2 brands mentioned are overpriced. Also buy imported peeled tomato, often cheaper and better than local.
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    Yip, Rhodes in this house also.

    Their cheddar cheese is inconsistent but their tinned products are and on point flavour wise. Their tinned jams come with plastic lids and fridge friendly tins.
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    Our local brand.

    Success rate is roughly 70%.

    30 out of 100 will ignite but fail to light up.
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    Agree totally.

    A big number of the matches fail to light or go out immediately.
    Been useless for a while now.

    Quality control non existent I would guess.

    A great brand name destroyed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    WAJ, care to explain what specifically you're talking about. I have a slight vested interest here (can't say more at the moment)

    PM if you wish
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    As a pipe smoker I only use matches.
    Lion used to be good quality.
    They were made of popular. The wood was treated with a chemical that prevents the burnt match to completely burn out to ash causing a glowing ember to eventually drop to the ground.
    The head would never splatter when lit and the stick were strong and seldom split or broke when striked.
    The box was also well stocked.
    However quite a few years ago the quality went down the drain.
    Made of pine which contains a lot of resin, not treated causing a match to continue glowing and then eventually dropping onto my lap. When striked the head would splatter causing a sperk to shoot into any direction.
    The match itself would either break, split or the head would fall of. Most matches had very little sulpher on and the box was poorly stocked.
    I made a point of not using Lion matches long ago, and thus only buy good quality matches.
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    Default Re: Lion (extra strong) matches

    But, what is a good brand nowadays?

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    Molelo for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnaman View Post
    As a pipe smoker I only use matches.
    Lion used to be good quality.
    They were made of popular. The wood was treated with a chemical that prevents the burnt match to completely burn out to ash causing a glowing ember to eventually drop to the ground.
    The head would never splatter when lit and the stick were strong and seldom split or broke when striked.
    The box was also well stocked.
    However quite a few years ago the quality went down the drain.
    Made of pine which contains a lot of resin, not treated causing a match to continue glowing and then eventually dropping onto my lap. When striked the head would splatter causing a sperk to shoot into any direction.
    The match itself would either break, split or the head would fall of. Most matches had very little sulpher on and the box was poorly stocked.
    I made a point of not using Lion matches long ago, and thus only buy good quality matches.
    Pretty much, I can also add that one never used to get irregular thicknesses, it seems this quality protocol has also been discarded, as long as it can take some of the sulfer mix it will be boxed and sold, some needle thin stalks in my most recent box
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    It is called marketing guys. If sales dip, you jazz up the label with smoke and mirrors and sell the same or slightly inferior product.

    Often done in combination with contents of the "typical" shopping trolley, cut the price of a fast mover but make it up on a higher margin on a slow mover.

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    I was also complaining about the quality of the LION matches and after reading the thread about fake Lion matches we made sure we got the real deal. What a difference to have decent matches once again.

    In fact they even have a web page on it!
    https://www.lionmatch.co.za/pages/74...safety-matches

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    There's quite an interesting video on that link above:

    https://www.lionmatch.co.za/pages/74...-match-is-made


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    Check out these rare earth magnesium fire starters. Good use for a Lion match to start the chemical reaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WAJ View Post
    Well, as one example, I have always bought Koo or Allgold tomato & onion relish in cans that I put on my pap.

    They were nice full of tomatoes and onions - in the past not very watery.

    But these days (and I am talking the last 5 or more years now) they are so very very diluted with water, very little onions or tomatoes in there, also to add to that the skins of the tomatoes USED to be removed but now its all in there. Well, I have stopped buying those brand all together and now just buy Rhodes products as they are still reasonably good quality.

    I also noticed the very distinct lack of cheese on romans pizza - not even talking lock-down, this I observed long before already. I have been buying romans for a very very long time, even when there names was still Little Ceasers or some such.

    Nee wat, manufacturers think consumers are stupid, and in 80% of cases they might be right, but I am not in that percentile.


    A while ago Romans suddenly started to offer extra cheese as a option, makes you wonder. Another big problem I have with Romans is that quality differ a lot between stores in my experience. The Romans closest to us has been going down hill in taste for quite a few years now, then another one opened just 2 km or so further away. Most of the time we now use the one further away, their pizza is a lot better. We even directly tested this once before, a friend bought a pizza from the one and I bought the same pizza from the other and we directly compared.
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    I've been a pipe smoker for nigh on 45 years - still am, in spite of the auntie with the abysmal taste in head-gear!

    Lion matches SUCK...but so does pretty much any other brand of matches.

    I tried a Zippo pipe lighter - works a charm, but tastes KUK!

    I tried cheapie disposable lighters - I singed my eyebrows, set my mustachio alight, but never succeeded in lighting my pipe in anything but dead calm weather with no breeze.

    So I tried lighting the pipe with a coal from a fire - that wreaked havoc with both my wood, meat and alcohol supply.

    So I'm back to matches. Any brand. They're all equally hopeless. Nowadays I just smoke 3 packets of matches a day instead of 1....
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