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    Love it! Why couldn't LR have made this Click image for larger version. 

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    Love dit. Lyk neer na n defender as wat die nuwe defender doen.

    Nou een vraag:
    N stoere defender man, koop jy nou die nuwe defender, agter die naam, of koop jy die, agter die konsep? Sal seker n tawwe besluit wees...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenen View Post
    Love dit. Lyk neer na n defender as wat die nuwe defender doen.

    Nou een vraag:
    N stoere defender man, koop jy nou die nuwe defender, agter die naam, of koop jy die, agter die konsep? Sal seker n tawwe besluit wees...
    En koste. Hoeveel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaudeG View Post
    Love it! Why couldn't LR have made this Click image for larger version. 

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    Hulle het. Hulle het dit die defender genoem.
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    As far as I am concerned this is the new Defender.

    To answer the OP's question: because LR are not into the 'working' vehicles market at this stage .
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    Now, for the price...
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    Nou die volg vraag. Wie gaan dit verkoop, en wie gaan dit diens?
    Sal hulle n ooreenkoms met bmw hÍ?

    Kan nie maklik wees om n nuwe voertuig in wereldmark in te stuur nie.

    Dink net die wagtyd vir parte op dit.
    Hoop hulle kry n ander maatskappy om op te piggyback.

    Dalk vir van die Landy Indies lisensie gee as diensagente?
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    I'm a series and old defender fan not a Land Rover fan. Discos, Free Landers, Range Rovers etc don't interest me in the slightest.
    I love old Cruisers, Mogs, Willie's Jeeps and character vehicles.
    It's the whole concept and lifestyle of the defender that appeals, the new defender doesn't fit into this at all for me hopefully the Grenadier will and if it does I'm in.
    Love the look so far.
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    Very interesting. It looks like they will fit 6 cylinder BMW petrol and diesel turbo engine options combined with 8 speed gearbox (probably auto) and their own transfer box. This will be combined with 2 solid beam axles on coil suspension. 3 difflocks to be fitted.

    Just hope they do not get locked into some design copy battle in court.

    The BMW engine LR we built in SA was an early warning that this is what the market wants.

    Just show what can happen if you don't listen to your own customer base. LR spent 50 + years building a good product and reputation and then change direction into something not suited or affordable to their market.

    If the Grenadier sell at between R 400K and R 600K then LR Defender will have an uphill battle.
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    Ek dink hulle het die hofgeding oor copyright klaar gewen.

    Ek sou raai in die R750k - R1.25 miljoen Range.

    Die bmw engine alleen sou klaar rondom R200-300k wees.
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    Daar is nie n manier hy verkoop vir minder as n run of the mill jap dc bakkie nie. Ek dink hy bied ook meer.

    Dink ook nie hy sal goedkoper wees as wat n defender in 2015 was nie. Wat was hulle toe al? R600k?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBX View Post
    If the Grenadier sell at between R 400K and R 600K then LR Defender will have an uphill battle.
    hahaha dream on.
    Will probably be more expensive than the New defender.
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    One article I read here in Aus mentioned that price-wise we would be looking at the full Raptorís price, which is around the $80 000 mark.

    So yes, in SA I doubt it would be anything under 1 bar.
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    https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...-revealed.html

    Instead of a traditional dealership network, customers will be able to shop online and via a network of existing agricultural and tractor traders, ‘pop-up sites’ at county shows and agricultural and equestrian events, and at off-road experience centres where buyers can try out the vehicles for themselves.
    For repairs and servicing it is planning a ‘flying spanner’ service as well as a partnership with a major international chain of repair centres.
    Now that the covers are off, more than a million miles of testing is planned over the coming year including in South Africa and arctic tundra.
    Ineos Automotive’s chief executive Dirk Heilmann said: ‘From today the covers are off. Showing the design now allows us to focus on the critical next phase of the vehicle’s development, testing its capability and durability.’
    ‘Testing ‘in plain sight’ without the need for camouflage wrapping, foam blocks or fake panels is an added benefit.’
    About 35 per cent of sales will be in North America, 30 per cent in the UK and Europe including Germany, with the remainder across Africa, Asia, Australia and New Zealand.
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    The most exciting 4x4 to be revealed in a long time.

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    I love it!

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    I like !
    The roof gutters, the shape and the retro look and the engine.

    As a Land Rover fan , unlike Toyota guys that tell you they buy Toyota because there is an agent in every dorp, that wont faze me , I have never worried about it, to have an agent every few 100 km.So if they have agents only in big centres that is fine. Hopefully it will have a following like Land Rover where the web keeps you informed in tips and tricks of this new vehicle.

    What I dont like, if I look at it it is going to have a ###### lot of wind and road noise, which is very annoying , and I sincerely hope that they could manage to build a 5 star NCAP rated vehicle, these days the full star NCAP rating is non negotiable in buying a new vehicle
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    Quote Originally Posted by oradba69 View Post
    hahaha dream on.
    Will probably be more expensive than the New defender.
    Agree it is a low hope but if they price more expensive that the New Defender, then they will struggle.
    Maybe they bring to market a single cab bakkie with non-turbo straight six petrol engine closer to R400 - R 500 K.
    I really like the idea of the 6 cylinder BMW engines. A straight six is naturally a smooth engine and the BMW versions have been proven over many years.
    They say the insides are not going to be loaded with all the expensive stuff.
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    Absolutely love it. Think they mentioned manual gearboxes not auto.

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