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    Default Elephants dying in huge numbers ?

    Anyone have any ideas of the causes ?
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    Default Re: Elephants dying in huge numbers ?

    Wonder if anyone has conducted testes on the water in the delta area.Possible contamination.

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    Here's the story...

    https://africageographic.com/stories...-rises-to-400/

    Apparently Onderstepoort has not been asked to investigate.

    Seems like it cannot be poison because the vultures are not dying..

    I don't think the hunting plan is required anymore, 400 is plenty elephant!

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    Itís COVID. .

    But. Maybe it really is 😳
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    Default Re: Elephants dying in huge numbers ?

    More likely a localized anthrax outbreak.

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    Some die standing up ? That's a first for me.....
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    Well it is very wet year in the Delta.

    What if a plant that has been absent for years now appeared again and the ellies are just not used to it? Or maybe some younger one's never ate it before?

    Like lucern, livestock and horses will eat themselves sick on it if they get into a lucern field.
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    Default Re: Elephants dying in huge numbers ?

    Quote Originally Posted by RobH View Post
    More likely a localized anthrax outbreak.
    Yes most likely.
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    I guess anthrax would have been tested for right at the beginning.

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    I feel that its deliberate poisoning by cattle owners who have not only have their crops damaged but also grazing consumed by game and elephants. Also due to the changed government approach to conservation in general, and in particular the attitude toward elephants and their numbers that have been growing rapidly over the last decade or so. These large elephant numbers have resulted in elephant sightings way further south (CKGR) than in the past.
    Crop damage caused by elephants has been a problem, and I think the government is turning a blind eye to these deaths, because if it was anthrax it would have infected cattle and there would have been a huge outcry from cattle owners and neighbouring countries - anthrax isn't a disease to be trifled with.

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    Just a question: Poisoning by farmers, water contamination, anthrax....won't these affect other species as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitebob View Post
    Just a question: Poisoning by farmers, water contamination, anthrax....won't these affect other species as well?
    Quite possibly, but no mention of other game so far in the media - but then I haven't been digging either.

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    The vultures feeding on the carcasses doesn't even die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilfwalk View Post
    Quite possibly, but no mention of other game so far in the media - but then I haven't been digging either.
    Been mentioned many times, Vultures, hyenas feeding on them but not being affected.

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    very sad news , but may be a good thing, are there not a few thousand to many out there. they are destroying everything because they have not been kept under control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobusDJ View Post
    The vultures feeding on the carcasses doesn't even die.
    As far as I know, vultures digestion system can process anthrax.

    https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...s-and-anthrax/
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    Some reports ruled anthrax out! Some ellies apparently had neurotically damage.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLK View Post
    ...Some ellies apparently had neurotically damage.?
    This is why my suspicion is a toxic plant with a poison that breaks down quickly and does not affect animals scavenging on the carcasses.

    To me it is highly unlikely that it poisoning by cattle farmers in the region: the risk is just too great to poison water sources from which your own cattle might drink from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitebob View Post
    Just a question: Poisoning by farmers, water contamination, anthrax....won't these affect other species as well?
    Vultures are anthrax resistant but not poison resistant so it seems likely a disease not poisoning

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    I was in the Chobe a few years ago (2015 I think) around June July and experienced this - it was a particularly dry season ... in a single game drive we saw 26 dead/dying elephants, mostly babies and young adults.
    I asked one of the elderly local game wardens what was happening as a lot of them were close to the water so it couldn't be from thirst.

    He went on to explain that there is a plant/bark/grass that elephants feed on, and when stressed by the drought the plant creates a toxin to "protect" itself ... and because the younger elephants have not developed the natural antibodies they follow the lead of the older animals and succumb to the toxin that bloats them so the don't eat or drink. I guess it is natures way of keeping check on the population ... I think perhaps us humans need a similar event ... ah Covid? HIV? Ebola?

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