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    You're going to use an awful lot of matches with that approach, and you best hope the wind is calm and your fingers well calloused.

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    Was nice to read through this thread. Some ingenious ideas.

    I have also used most showering methods through the years.

    Started with the black solar bags with shower head. Works fine in summer when sunny but obviously a no no in winter or cloudy days.

    The pot with the 12v submersible pump is but far the most cost effective method with a high predictable outcome. I still have many friends and family that use this method even though they can afford better.

    Personally the easiest and nicest unit was the Hansen geyser. For ease of use not many come close. You can run it on 220v before you leave home and when you arrive at camp or even next to the road you have hot water by just turning the tap. When you arrive at your destination you can then choose between 220v (if available) or gas.
    Of Course this "luxury" does come with quite a bit of weight and size and its definitively not the most economical on the gas.

    I now have a 6l/min small gas geyser fed by a shurflow pump. And after playing a bit with the settings I can now pretty easily create warm water on demand with minimal effort.

    All of them work.
    So it just depends on your space, funds and the effort you are willing to go through.

    Thanks for the interesting thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heyyahhey View Post
    You're going to use an awful lot of matches with that approach, and you best hope the wind is calm and your fingers well calloused.
    Just some tongue in cheek. This thread has been one I have been following from the start. Some very good ideas and some well kitted guys out there. I think this thread has covered most questions for a lot of us looking for ideas and guidance. At the end of it all, we all know, when the wife has nice warm water to shower/wash with makes for a better time than without

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tall Paul View Post
    Just some tongue in cheek. This thread has been one I have been following from the start. Some very good ideas and some well kitted guys out there. I think this thread has covered most questions for a lot of us looking for ideas and guidance. At the end of it all, we all know, when the wife has nice warm water to shower/wash with makes for a better time than without

    As was mine - I thought your post was quite funny considering the complexity of some of our contraptions.

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    Out of curiosity, if the situation does not allow you to plug into 12v, do you have an extension, or what do you do, also this question is for all the others that need access to 12v in order for the shower systems to operate?

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    I assume by extension you mean for 220v?
    If 220 is available then more than likely there will be showers available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceT View Post
    I assume by extension you mean for 220v?
    If 220 is available then more than likely there will be showers available.


    Maybe Iím paranoid ó I prefer own shower even with good ablution available. I set our shower on the Companion, even when parked next to ablution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceT View Post
    I assume by extension you mean for 220v?
    If 220 is available then more than likely there will be showers available.
    No 220V

    If I may give a scenario:
    So you are out in the wild, but a designated campsite. The other sites are taken up by other campers, you can only use your shower pump off the 12V socket, but are unable to shower in the immediate surrounding of your own site, how do you get access to the 12V supply to run the pump needed for the shower or having to connect the gas to the geyser? However, there is a man made shower area/cubicle in the campsite or maybe just nothing at all. This is probably a unlikely situation as most people have cubicles, Just putting the question out there.

    Just playing devils advocate, no signalling out of anyone's setup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tall Paul View Post
    No 220V

    If I may give a scenario:
    So you are out in the wild, but a designated campsite. The other sites are taken up by other campers, you can only use your shower pump off the 12V socket, but are unable to shower in the immediate surrounding of your own site, how do you get access to the 12V supply to run the pump needed for the shower or having to connect the gas to the geyser? However, there is a man made shower area/cubicle in the campsite or maybe just nothing at all. This is probably a unlikely situation as most people have cubicles, Just putting the question out there.

    Just playing devils advocate, no signalling out of anyone's setup.
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    That's what the cheap loose 7Ah 12V battery is for

    Such as :
    https://www.batteryexperts.co.za/shop/12v-7ah/

    It weighs only 2kg
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    Thanks Dungbeetle,

    Being so small and compact, should not be any issue packing this for safety sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tall Paul View Post
    No 220V

    If I may give a scenario:
    So you are out in the wild, but a designated campsite. The other sites are taken up by other campers, you can only use your shower pump off the 12V socket, but are unable to shower in the immediate surrounding of your own site, how do you get access to the 12V supply to run the pump needed for the shower or having to connect the gas to the geyser? However, there is a man made shower area/cubicle in the campsite or maybe just nothing at all. This is probably a unlikely situation as most people have cubicles, Just putting the question out there.

    Just playing devils advocate, no signalling out of anyone's setup.
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    Oh right. Ive never had that situation but i think most will have a cubicle of some sort that they would use close to the power source or portable power. I have just purchased an Eezi Awn Cube for showering and changing in when needed. Its an awesome bit of kit and so easy to setup.
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    [QUOTE=hbannink;4426636]Still baffled by how they got the hot and cold water ti stick to their own side of the pipe


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    Our setup is

    Pop up shower tent

    48 amp portable aux battery (we can charge via the car or solar)

    Shower pump and head
    https://www.takealot.com/kaufmann-po...v/PLID51793215

    I remember going to Khama Rhino one Jan. The ablutions were filthy and full of mozzies. So even there we got to use the set up as it was far more sanitary than the ablutions.
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    Bruce, a few important things to bear in mind.
    1. What is your water carrying capacity.
    2. How long trip do you need to cater for with this amount of water.
    3. Means to keep track of your water consumption.

    Although the gas type geysers is nice it is difficult to keep track of water use. For short trips they work well or where you can refill water regularly.

    For extended trips we use the 12v submersible pump setup with a 4.5 liter chlorine bottle. it is easy to keep track of water use and the long upright chlorine bottle makes it easy for the pump to suck up most of the water in the bottle.

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    This works for me in the sticks..... Just shorten the nozzle pipe, half fill with cold water and add some hot water to get the temperature right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poena Minnaar View Post
    Bruce, a few important things to bear in mind.
    1. What is your water carrying capacity.
    2. How long trip do you need to cater for with this amount of water.
    3. Means to keep track of your water consumption.

    Although the gas type geysers is nice it is difficult to keep track of water use. For short trips they work well or where you can refill water regularly.

    For extended trips we use the 12v submersible pump setup with a 4.5 liter chlorine bottle. it is easy to keep track of water use and the long upright chlorine bottle makes it easy for the pump to suck up most of the water in the bottle.
    I have about 140 ltrs carrying capacity. 80 grey water and 60 drinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BruceT View Post
    I have about 140 ltrs carrying capacity. 80 grey water and 60 drinking.
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    - Patrol : if need be 4 x 25 L drums behind front seats on floor - they fit upright easily in all that leg-space

    Total 200 L - once done 12 days trip without taking any on along the way, there was a little left.
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    Oh ja I didnt think about the jerry cans I can add to that total. So say 100 ltrs on top of that in jerry cans although Ive never carried that much. Drinking water I usually add a few 5lr containers in when necessary also.
    There are always, rivers, garages, tanks etc to fill up from.
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    I use my Kariba K2 shower/cooker. Circulate water through the geyser into a 20l jerry can until hot enough to shower. Then use a normal 12v shower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tall Paul View Post
    Out of curiosity, if the situation does not allow you to plug into 12v, do you have an extension, or what do you do, also this question is for all the others that need access to 12v in order for the shower systems to operate?

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    Not having a car and 12V means I don't have to shower Don't know of many cars and campers that won't have a battery in the car or then a loose remote smaller one at mentioned. I always use a small battery for my camping/braai LED lights. It is just part of my kit.

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