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    Im pretty impressed with our fortuners fuel economy. If theyve really managed to eeek out a 17% fuel economy improvement in the real world...i will be truly impressed. 17% is actually a very big improvement

    Im also wondering what theyve done to the motor to get those gains....a remap? Or actual mechanical changes...

    Remember this is a facelift and not a NEW fortuner...same chassis motor and gearbox and body...even the interior is the same
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    Quote Originally Posted by MUGmug View Post
    Im pretty impressed with our fortuners fuel economy. If theyve really managed to eeek out a 17% fuel economy improvement in the real world...i will be truly impressed. 17% is actually a very big improvement

    Im also wondering what theye done to the motor to get those gains....a remap? Or actual mechanical changes...

    Remember this is a facelift and not a NEW fortuner...same chassis motor and gearbox and body...even the interior is the same
    OK - Edited the Thread Topic Line now.

    We will find out eventually how the 150 KW is achieved - with SOFTWARE REMAPPING I believe some people achieved over 160 KW with CHIPPING the 2,8 GD-6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidGX View Post
    OK - Edited the Thread Topic Line now.

    We will find out eventually how the 150 KW is achieved - my bet it is SOFTWARE REMAPPING as I believe some people got between 140-155KW with CHIPPING the 2,8 GD-6.
    My gd6 (albeit hilux) is remapped and figures are 164kw and 549NM
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    The motor gets bigger turbo with more bearings, the piston rings have some sort of coating (diamond like) and a new diesel injection system. That is what I read somewhere, for the likes of me I can not remember where. (NOT claiming it is true, we will know soon enough)

    Doubt it is just a re-map.

    If those figures can be realised it would be great.

    Then they both have the same power output as the Ranger Raptor. Raptor only has 7kw more, same torque, but is heavier. Hilux will have a slight power to weight advantage then.

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    I bet no mechanical difference and I really doubt 17% better economy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumbles View Post
    The motor gets bigger turbo with more bearings, the piston rings have some sort of coating (diamond like) and a new diesel injection system. That is what I read somewhere, for the likes of me I can not remember where. (NOT claiming it is true, we will know soon enough)

    Doubt it is just a re-map.
    I really hope you’re wrong! Would love to just do a software upgrade on mine, think it desperately needs more power....
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    I really hope they manage to paint it right...as in the right coats, the right primer etc.

    So that it doesn't rust when a bird p****s on it.

    EDIT: do birds , technically, p**s? Discuss...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumbles View Post
    Doubt it is just a re-map.
    Yip, seems there are more to it:
    https://www.pressroom.com.au/press_r...navSectionID=2
    But the most significant changes are under the skin where new and revised engine components result in noticeable gains to output with sizeable cuts to fuel consumption.

    New and uprated components have resulted in an even more robust 2.8-litre turbo-diesel engine, enabling maximum power to rise to 150kW and torque to peak at 500Nm.

    While delivering impressive gains of 20kW and 50Nm, additional measures including improved cooling have enabled fuel consumption to be reduced across the board, particularly in city driving where the improvement is more than 17 per cent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PieterOos View Post
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    Just a tongue in the cheek comment. Thank the guys at VW and Ford for this development. Had these companies not upped the power stakes, Toyota would have taken another 5 years before taking this route (if ever).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtshark View Post
    I bet no mechanical difference and I really doubt 17% better economy!
    So I'm wrong still doubt the economy though
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidGX View Post
    Facelifted Version :150 KW and 500 NM with 17% less fuel.....
    This is very good news.

    It means the Prado which always gets a new motor from the Hilux will finally be a little quicker

    My hope is that the 2.8 in Prado will be twin turbo to at least get it to 180kW and 600Nm, since Prado is much heavier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byaru1 View Post
    This is very good news.

    It means the Prado which always gets a new motor from the Hilux will finally be a little quicker

    My hope is that the 2.8 in Prado will be twin turbo to at least get it to 180kW and 600Nm, since Prado is much heavier.
    Doubt this very much. Knowing Toyota at best it’ll be the same and that too “eventually”
    Agree with previous few posts here too.
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    I think that Toyota will be a game changer and bring a hybrid Hilux in the next few years(new model).....possibly a 2.5 petrol that will match the V6 diesels??
    Prado will without doubt get a Hybrid and/or possibly a V6 diesel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtshark View Post
    I think that Toyota will be a game changer and bring a hybrid Hilux in the next few years(new model).....possibly a 2.5 petrol that will match the V6 diesels??
    Prado will without doubt get a Hybrid and/or possibly a V6 diesel.
    Again, wouldn’t be surprised, if it is the hybrids, it’s actually the old technology from the Lexus Hybrids. And in my view they weren’t all the fuel efficient anyway.
    Will it also work “out in Africa”. To be able to also fixed with a wire hanger and a stocking, and nevermind the loadshedding lol
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    Default Re: The mighty new Facelifted 2021 Fortuner

    This is very good news.

    It means the Prado which always gets a new motor from the Hilux will finally be a little quicker

    My hope is that the 2.8 in Prado will be twin turbo to at least get it to 180kW and 600Nm, since Prado is much heavier.
    Doubt this very much. Knowing Toyota at best it’ll be the same and that too “eventually”
    Agree with previous few posts here too.
    From precedent, yes. But it seems they are approaching things differently now. Who would have thought they would eke 150kw/500Nm from a 2.8 diesel
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK77 View Post
    Again, wouldn’t be surprised, if it is the hybrids, it’s actually the old technology from the Lexus Hybrids. And in my view they weren’t all the fuel efficient anyway.
    Will it also work “out in Africa”. To be able to also fixed with a wire hanger and a stocking, and nevermind the loadshedding lol
    Wrong on both counts, regarding the 'out in Africa' concerns - I don't think wire hangar and stocking is going to help much even with a GD6 or with any DC these days.......my concerns would be towing weight and how well it carries a load.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtshark View Post
    Wrong on both counts, regarding the 'out in Africa' concerns - I don't think wire hangar and stocking is going to help much even with a GD6 or with any DC these days.......my concerns would be towing weight and how well it carries a load.
    Agree on the GD6’s.
    Was referring to the new vehicles to be launched whenever. If these are the high tech engines/motors, not a good idea for out in Africa due to the lack of ability to deal with issues out there. Hence hybrids in the new range is not a good idea for Africa consumption. To be honest, I don’t know how and when that will be overcome (just a thought/opinion).
    The 76 type with the straight forward motors, an example of what works and has been proven. Low tech, fuel consumption through the roof, no fuss, just goes on and on and on (mostly).
    I must admit, I am a sucker for technology, just not Toyota/Lexus hybrids. They were quite an anticlimax for me.
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