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    Quote Originally Posted by JLK View Post
    Yes it is correct , but the 3l D4D in the Prado has better or equal torque over most of the rev range than 2.8 , because of the flat torque curve which I am saying the current 2.8 is not really an upgrade in the Prado. Yes a 600Nm machine in the Prado would be nice.
    Anyways, I hope a more powerful motor will be delivered in the next gen Prado. Current one is already on its way out after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byaru1 View Post
    But inherently this issue of the Prado using exactly the same motor as the Hilux always bothers me, because it's a rip-off for the Prado customer. First, the Prado being heavier will always be the performance underdog given the identical power and torque in the 2.8. Imagine a Hilux outpacing a Prado VXL from standstill at a robot or while overtaking...

    Secondly, Prado being a premium product, should either have a more refined motor, at least a 6 cylinder, or if similar to Hilux , made much less noisy and tuned to offer at least 50% more performance. Like 180kW, 600Nm. The way a proper Land Cruiser should be.
    If that is really what you felt you should have invested in a D4. Yes, Land Rover is much quicker to bring technology to market. With it, you get the risk that most people moan about. Alternatively, stay with Toyota, you get to boast about the ironclad reliability but you also suffer the ancient technology with its poor power outputs, refinement and fuel consumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMatt View Post
    If that is really what you felt you should have invested in a D4.
    Ah we got that one already. A 2012 D4 V8. Was about 130,000k three years ago. Nearly clocking 200k. Been surprisingly very reliable, not just the engine but whole package generally. May be most niggles were absorbed by 1st owner... If at all they were there.

    Yes, Land Rover is much quicker to bring technology to market. With it, you get the risk that most people moan about. Alternatively, stay with Toyota, you get to boast about the ironclad reliability but you also suffer the ancient technology with its poor power outputs, refinement and fuel consumption.
    But is it asking too much to use the same engines for Hilux and Prado, but give Prado more power and torque than Hilux just to differentiate premium from workhorse..

    Then noise and refinement... Again, I think it's a case of Toyota being plain stubborn.

    Anyway, I'm hoping the upcoming new Prado will be different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by byaru1 View Post
    Ah we got that one already. A 2012 D4 V8. Was about 130,000k three years ago. Nearly clocking 200k. Been surprisingly very reliable, not just the engine but whole package generally. May be most niggles were absorbed by 1st owner... If at all they were there.



    But is it asking too much to use the same engines for Hilux and Prado, but give Prado more power and torque than Hilux just to differentiate premium from workhorse..

    Then noise and refinement... Again, I think it's a case of Toyota being plain stubborn.

    Anyway, I'm hoping the upcoming new Prado will be different.
    Enjoy the D4 they are better than most people believe.

    In terms of Toyota, they will never do that. They will not stretch an engine more that already has a heavier vehicle to move.

    I represent a Japanese company in a different industry and getting them to be flexible in their thinking is a non-starter. I had a project where I knew they had the right solution moving glass-filled plastics. They insisted on sample material to conduct a test. A then declined to quote me as there was too much wear. The reality is that nobody in the industry has managed to beat this wear issue. I insisted they quote me and that I would carry the risk for the customer. The system has been working perfectly now for 8 years and the customer already has 2 more in his factory. Toyota I am sure think similarly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumbles View Post
    The motor gets bigger turbo with more bearings, the piston rings have some sort of coating (diamond like) and a new diesel injection system. That is what I read somewhere, for the likes of me I can not remember where. (NOT claiming it is true, we will know soon enough)

    Doubt it is just a re-map.

    If those figures can be realised it would be great.

    Then they both have the same power output as the Ranger Wildtrak. Wildtrak only has 7kw more, same torque, but is not much heavier, if at all. Hilux will therefore not have a power to weight advantage then.

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    A lot of low hanging plastic on front bumper,.....not so good for offroading?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hofnis View Post
    A lot of low hanging plastic on front bumper,.....not so good for offroading?
    That is not the new Fortuner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caracal View Post
    That is not the new Fortuner.
    They are all over the country in Toyota showrooms,.....hopefully Tuna fans will not be too disappointed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hofnis View Post
    They are all over the country in Toyota showrooms,.....hopefully Tuna fans will not be too disappointed?
    Oh hell no!!! Jislaaik, vieslik! Sies!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK77 View Post
    Oh hell no!!! Jislaaik, vieslik! Sies!!!
    That front is hanging too low. I hope this look is only an option (like sports kit or something...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hofnis View Post
    A lot of low hanging plastic on front bumper,.....not so good for offroading?
    Quote Originally Posted by Caracal View Post
    That is not the new Fortuner.
    That is the Lexus grill Not the Toyota. I think those pics are fake... Edit: I HOPE they are fake
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    Quote Originally Posted by hofnis View Post
    They are all over the country in Toyota showrooms,.....hopefully Tuna fans will not be too disappointed?
    Name one garage in SA with this monstrosity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PieterOos View Post
    The second photo in this post (https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...30#post4460330) says "Fosters Toyota" - in Roodepoort? (https://fosterstoyota.com/)
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    Quote Originally Posted by phuma View Post
    Thanks - it seems to be their aftermarket kit and not OE : includes Fosters Exclusive FRD kits

    also here : Forsters FRD Kit
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    Faaark!!!! That is ugleeeeee!!!!
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    It has been confirmed that the Facelift Fortuner will be launched in October this Year together with the Hilux . A VX model will be added to the Fortuner range as well.
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    Just to show that it is not that fugly Lexus wannabee that was posted earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWR View Post
    Just to show that it is not that fugly Lexus wannabee that was posted earlier.
    The one in the picture you posted is also fugly - hope its the old one?

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    This Info comes directly from Toyota SA , so I think this will be correct!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWR View Post
    This Info comes directly from Toyota SA , so I think this will be correct!
    Thanks JWR
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    (and ignore the trolls )

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