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    Default Re: Best 4x4 tires for deep sand

    The top picture in post#7 is of a 697, the younger brother of the 694.
    I ran both and they were very good on sand but I wont touch them again, they are absolute puncture magnets.
    Post #16 reflects exactly my experience although I must add that the KO2 AT is a lot better than its predesessor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtshark View Post
    Not from what I have seen, mostly just normal ATs, but lots of the serious lunatics with aggressive MTS!!
    this is what they run

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    this is what they run

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    MT will take you further than AT's. I go with the AT's with the roughest tread I can find as a compromise.

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    Ek dink dit hang ook baie af van die bestuurder wat sy voertuig ry en goed ken. Ek self het al heelat in dik sand gery in paar lande en baie geleer.
    Vir my werk A/T bande baie goed het nog geen probleem met dit in dik sand gehad nie en is omtrent altyd swaar gelaai as ek so toer en ry.

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    I have spent the last 20 odd years working at a sand mining operation in NKZN and we have use every thing from 2wd column shift 1800 Hilux's to V6 cruisers ( some even with B6 armoring ) and can tell you the tread pattern is the minor part of the equation . Tire pressure and technique is the key. Some may say we use momentum , but all our vehicles are tracked and any speed over 40kh/h is flagged. That is just m2cw
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasT View Post
    tread pattern is the minor part of the equation . Tire pressure and technique is the key.
    I could not agree more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    this is what they run

    None of the desert tour companies use those and I have been on on a few, saw a few around though, in fact my bil's neighbor had a Pajero with a set......generally guys just run with standard ATs.. at the lunatic Sundays you would see more the hard core with MT's and even Quads with paddles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    this is what they run

    I know the Arabs preffer this type of tire but the sand over there is not quite the same as ours. MT's in sand are like a "sword". A sword cuts both sides. They are damn good in sand but if you are inexperience (like me) they "help you" to get bogged down more than any other tread. I have decided to go with the ATs (at least until I get more experienced).
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    Yep

    Yokohama once had a series : Yokohama Super Diggers...haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungbeetle View Post
    Yep

    Yokohama once had a series : Yokohama Super Diggers...haha
    Those were the BFG's of the day. Every second bakkie had them on
    If Force is not the solution, not enough of it was applied....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pietsweis View Post
    Those were the BFG's of the day. Every second bakkie had them on
    Especially SFA Hiluxes!
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    I remember those they were not bad in the sand. Had to be careful with stones

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    Those super diggers were terrible in the wet tho, super slip no grip
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pietsweis View Post
    Those were the BFG's of the day. Every second bakkie had them on
    I had a few sets of them. Excellent km's 80k plus. None ever failed me. Have done thousands of 4x4 km's on them. Yes they came with SFA Hilux's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grips View Post
    I had a few sets of them. Excellent km's 80k plus. None ever failed me. Have done thousands of 4x4 km's on them. Yes they came with SFA Hilux's.
    I remember my dad's 1990 hilux had a set of Yokohama Super Diggers when he bought it. The hilux also had the obligatory white steelies with the red and blue pin stripes. Lekker windgat! Oh yes, and who remembers Jan Smuts "De Lux" canopies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koebelwagen View Post
    I remember my dad's 1990 hilux had a set of Yokohama Super Diggers when he bought it. The hilux also had the obligatory white steelies with the red and blue pin stripes. Lekker windgat! Oh yes, and who remembers Jan Smuts "De Lux" canopies?
    Hhhmm, I do. The toppie's personal Hilux had one of those, I have an old pic of it somewhere.
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    From personal experience an AT tyre might ONLY outperform a MT when the vehicle struggles with power on a long and steep dune climb where as the AT will have less rolling resistance (traction) and momentum can be kept.
    As soon as you lose momentum it's all down to grip to get you moving in sand.
    I've played with AT and MTs on small and big 4WDs both Petrol and Diesel. The outcome is usually the same and personally I prefer MTs to ATs.
    If a MT tyre digs, its either overinflated for the terrain and/or the driver is driving too aggressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasT View Post
    I have spent the last 20 odd years working at a sand mining operation in NKZN and we have use every thing from 2wd column shift 1800 Hilux's to V6 cruisers ( some even with B6 armoring ) and can tell you the tread pattern is the minor part of the equation . Tire pressure and technique is the key. Some may say we use momentum , but all our vehicles are tracked and any speed over 40kh/h is flagged. That is just m2cw
    I can only agree to the post above...there are too many variables other than just tyre paterns or threads..i.e. gear selection, momentum, torque, skills and experience. Tyre pressure is key...and not so the width of contact surface, but the lenght of the contact surface..the lower the tyre pressure...the longer your footprint becomes. The better your traction. I grew up in the Sandveld..and have done a reasonable bit of travelling in sand and dunes(local and the Namib) from a young age.

    To help you choose the "right" tyre...is like telling which partner you should chose..my advice is go with the tyres you have and go practicing and learn your vehicle, gear selection and gain experience...before your look like a million dollars but perform like our own currency.
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    BFG A/T KO2 is the best all purpose tyre.
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