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    My daughter has a budget of around R130'000.
    She would like to buy an automatic awd suv or similar.

    What would be a decent buy to look out for?
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    Look at the Honda CR-v if she's not a brand junkie.

    Fabulous cars, outstanding built quality and space planning.

    She won't be sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouisXander View Post
    Look at the Honda CR-v if she's not a brand junkie.

    Fabulous cars, outstanding built quality and space planning.

    She won't be sorry.
    Thanks for that.
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    Just a question, will the average soft-roader be tough enough to last on the rough roads? Is a double cab not a better option? I know a double cab is also a serious compromise and my not be suitable, I am just wondering out loud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexP View Post
    My daughter has a budget of around R130'000.
    She would like to buy an automatic awd suv or similar.

    What would be a decent buy to look out for?

    Subaru Forester, great all rounder, really competent in the rough stuff and a real pleasure on farm roads/tracks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexP View Post
    My daughter has a budget of around R130'000.
    She would like to buy an automatic awd suv or similar.

    What would be a decent buy to look out for?
    What about a Freelander 2?

    All round very capable, and if you buy the right model you don't have too many issues. Obviously do some research on them, certain models, I believe pre 2011, have diff issues.

    Otherwise a Subaru Forester, Renault Duster, or Rav?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Commander View Post
    Just a question, will the average soft-roader be tough enough to last on the rough roads? Is a double cab not a better option? I know a double cab is also a serious compromise and my not be suitable, I am just wondering out loud.
    Many farmers had or have Merc sedans, and they last? Your question would be best answered by the built quality of the car/brand. Also, finding a decent double cab with that budget would be a massive stretch.
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    Just had a quick look and found the Cars.co.za listed mostly the following:

    Subaru Forrester
    Freelander
    Mitsubishi OUtlander
    Suzuki GV and Jimny
    Xtrails

    If it was my choice and the auto wasn't a must I would look at the Renault Duster 1.5 4x4, good economy and very capable for a softi for about 140k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dieterf View Post
    Subaru Forester, great all rounder, really competent in the rough stuff and a real pleasure on farm roads/tracks!
    The Subaru was one of her first queries to me.
    I read a very interesting article here on the 4x4 forum about the Subaru Forester. Pre 2014 having an expensive major service at a 100'000km's before the engine was changed to chain instead of belts.

    I personally am a Japanese fan. I drive a Mazda bakkie, and my other bakkie is a Nissan.
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    If it wasn't for the auto requirement I would have said an X-trail, plenty in good condition for that price. I just wouldn't touch a any of these SUVs that have a CVT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yster1979 View Post
    Just had a quick look and found the Cars.co.za listed mostly the following:

    Subaru Forrester
    Freelander
    Mitsubishi OUtlander
    Suzuki GV and Jimny
    Xtrails

    If it was my choice and the auto wasn't a must I would look at the Renault Duster 1.5 4x4, good economy and very capable for a softi for about 140k.
    My wife and I went on a road-trip through the Western Cape and the West coast in a hired Renault Duster.
    It was a great car, slightly underpowered but with the SA exchange rate, I am concerned about spares and servicing in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexP View Post
    My wife and I went on a road-trip through the Western Cape and the West coast in a hired Renault Duster.
    It was a great car, slightly underpowered but with the SA exchange rate, I am concerned about spares and servicing in the future.
    If service costs are a concern, then I would remove the Freelander from the list as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willis View Post
    If it wasn't for the auto requirement I would have said an X-trail, plenty in good condition for that price. I just wouldn't touch a any of these SUVs that have a CVT.
    Excuse my ignorance.
    What is a CVT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizardalpha View Post
    If service costs are a concern, then I would remove the Freelander from the list as well.
    The other daughter drives a D4. Great ride, but it has been in the workshop twice in less than 6 months.
    Sad truth is Landrover is just not the reliable brand that they used to be 20 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lizardalpha View Post
    Many farmers had or have Merc sedans, and they last? Your question would be best answered by the built quality of the car/brand. Also, finding a decent double cab with that budget would be a massive stretch.
    For reasons that only she can decipher, she wants a car, (suv) and not a bakkie.
    I have told her not to be hasty, and keep on saving.
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    Default Re: Advice AWD softroader

    With kids, an SUV is a better choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexP View Post
    My daughter has a budget of around R130'000.
    She would like to buy an automatic awd suv or similar.

    What would be a decent buy to look out for?
    Suzuki Grand Vitara, but avoid pre-2010 (Some had an engine block cracking problem that surfaced around 90k km, after that they solved the issue).
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    Also consider the AWD Daihatsu Terios - Economical and reliable. Badge branded Toyota.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexP View Post
    The other daughter drives a D4. Great ride, but it has been in the workshop twice in less than 6 months.
    Sad truth is Landrover is just not the reliable brand that they used to be 20 years ago.
    Diesel or Petrol? If you search this forum you will see that you cannot compare the reliability of a D3/4 diesel to a Freelander 2, same as you cannot compare a Freelander 1(also very crap reliability). I have owned a D3 Diesel, and yes, in the two years of ownership it was in the workshop more than all my other cars combined, not to mention the costs of these repairs. The FL2 has only been in for a Main Oil Seal, which the dealer fixed. It has a bit of a shudder now, but I think it is the top engine mounting, I can see it's shot, will replace before I need to start using it again. If it is not the engine mounting, it might be the Torque Converter, which will be a bummer as that is an expensive fix.

    Anyway, budget for car and budget for services after purchasing is a major consideration. Perhaps Jap is the way to go then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexP View Post
    My wife and I went on a road-trip through the Western Cape and the West coast in a hired Renault Duster.
    It was a great car, slightly underpowered but with the SA exchange rate, I am concerned about spares and servicing in the future.
    Which were 4x4? Only the Dynamique or how would you know?
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