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    Hi All

    I have a 2007 Hilux V6 4.0 auto double cab. I enjoy the bakkie very much, but I want to find out if chipping and or mapping will increase fuel efficiency. It has enough power, but with a fuel consumption of 7,3km/l on the open road, any improvement in consumption will be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoelM View Post
    Hi All

    I have a 2007 Hilux V6 4.0 auto double cab. I enjoy the bakkie very much, but I want to find out if chipping and or mapping will increase fuel efficiency. It has enough power, but with a fuel consumption of 7,3km/l on the open road, any improvement in consumption will be appreciated.

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    Joel
    There is very small to little gain by fitting a chip to a N/A engine. If you want better fuel consumption then drive slower.
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    Default Re: Chip and mapping of V6 4.0 Hilux

    My Dad has a V6 Fortuner and had it remapped by a reputable company
    No discernible difference in performance or fuel economy
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    Easiest way of bettering the fuel economy is to lie about it...
    Always think: Could this be sarcasm?

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    7.3km/L and you expect to get more , i would give my left ball to get 7.3km/L with my Hilux , If that figure is correct you are very lucky.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoelM View Post
    Hi All

    I have a 2007 Hilux V6 4.0 auto double cab. I enjoy the bakkie very much, but I want to find out if chipping and or mapping will increase fuel efficiency. It has enough power, but with a fuel consumption of 7,3km/l on the open road, any improvement in consumption will be appreciated.

    Thanks

    Joel

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    Quote Originally Posted by justaguy View Post
    7.3km/L and you expect to get more , i would give my left ball to get 7.3km/L with my Hilux , If that figure is correct you are very lucky.
    I agree, I used to average 6.5 till I changed to bigger tyres now I get 5.8
    Maybe you must try narrower tyres……

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    As already said chipping doesn't really make a difference to NA engines, you'll spend R4 - R5K on the chip, remap and maybe exhaust but you'll only see a very small difference, that's also if you don't use the extra power you'll suddenly have.

    That's actually the biggest problem with these chips and remaps, everyone want to do it for better fuel consumption, but then they use the extra power and actually get worse fuel consumption than before the chip.

    Stick to the standard size tires and stick to 110 Km/h on the highway rather than 120, you'll be surprised what difference it makes. My cousin drives a similar bakkie and he can get it up to 8 km/l if he really wants to. It's all about your right foot, 10 Km/h slower won't make you late for anything.
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    You won't get better fuel efficiency. The constraints of the physical engine design means that unless you can suddenly install dual variable valve technology from the later version, that is all you can expect.
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    Well we tried before. I t was in a landcruiser. Initially we made around 9 hp more and the consumption dropped by almost nothing. Less than a L per 100km. Within 2 weeks that management has figured out what we did and the fuelling was back to exactly where it was before the chip and so was the power and consumption. And we tried to lie to the lambda's (it has 4) and the airflow meter and everything in conjuction to each other. I would retune it - it will take a few weeks then back to where it was. Those systems are very clever and unless you really get somebody that can remap the stock system you are wasting time and money to even try.
    Besides - the car it is in had a lot fo drag - aero and drivetrain so they will never be light. But honestly. Live with it - you will waste your money to try.
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    But all the chip tuners claim 20% better fuel economy.........surely they aren't LYING?

    https://racechip.co.za/?gclid=Cj0KCQ...gaAuryEALw_wcB

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    you already have incredible consumption!!! I am very jealous!!! We seldom get more than 500km on a tank, open road usually 550km so on an 80l tank that is 6.25km/l and 6.875km/l. However there have been days and times when we did 590km on a tank so that's 7.375km/l.

    I have the branches and free-flow and the engine light on (can't fool my lambdas even with mini cats, probably a wire broken somewhere) but I have found the best way to cut back on consumption is take of the canopy and drive slower. Sweet spot is between 100 and 110km/h
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    Default Re: Chip and mapping of V6 4.0 Hilux

    Try www.Eurospeed.co.za;
    I think he can read/write to the stock ecu of a 1 gr-fe;
    He quoted around 4000-5000, I did not go through with it.
    Would be interested with the results if you do go ahead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bos suzi View Post
    Try www.Eurospeed.co.za;
    I think he can read/write to the stock ecu of a 1 gr-fe;
    He quoted around 4000-5000, I did not go through with it.
    Would be interested with the results if you do go ahead.
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    On the 1GR you can improve exhaust and intake to gain a few horses that is about it. The only way for more power is supercharger but with a 10:1 compression ratio there is not much left for boost. Very expensive to modify this engine. Lots of money for little gains.
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    Default Re: Chip and mapping of V6 4.0 Hilux

    See below what Rob Green Motors claim on the Prado 4.0 Petrol engine.

    https://www.rgmotorsport.com/index.p.../335-toy-prado


    All parts are available individually.


    RGM-S1 CONSISTS OF:
    RGM custom maufactured 63mm stainless steel performance exhaust system including removal of catalytic convertor
    Fit and map Uni –Q Unichip mapping ignition timing and fuel
    Serviceable performance air filter (K&N or BMC)


    6 month/ 20 000km's Warranty




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Mcd View Post
    See below what Rob Green Motors claim on the Prado 4.0 Petrol engine.

    https://www.rgmotorsport.com/index.p.../335-toy-prado


    All parts are available individually.


    RGM-S1 CONSISTS OF:
    RGM custom maufactured 63mm stainless steel performance exhaust system including removal of catalytic convertor
    Fit and map Uni –Q Unichip mapping ignition timing and fuel
    Serviceable performance air filter (K&N or BMC)


    6 month/ 20 000km's Warranty



    There is no way you will get to those gains with the mods he did. Exhuast will give 4-6kw at most and the chip 2-3kw.
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    Default Re: Chip and mapping of V6 4.0 Hilux

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Mcd View Post
    See below what Rob Green Motors claim on the Prado 4.0 Petrol engine.

    https://www.rgmotorsport.com/index.p.../335-toy-prado


    All parts are available individually.


    RGM-S1 CONSISTS OF:
    RGM custom maufactured 63mm stainless steel performance exhaust system including removal of catalytic convertor
    Fit and map Uni –Q Unichip mapping ignition timing and fuel
    Serviceable performance air filter (K&N or BMC)


    6 month/ 20 000km's Warranty




    The Prado has the dual VVT v6 motor where the Hilux has the single VVT. There is a huge difference, in its standard form the dual VVT is already lighter on fuel.
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    Default Re: Chip and mapping of V6 4.0 Hilux

    One should never purchase a V6 with fuel consumption in mind, then you're buying it for the wrong reason.
    If you find yourself asking the sales guy (or lady) what the consumption is, then it's not for you. Move on. V6's are there to be enjoyed without cringing.

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    Been around many years modifying normal aspirated engines. There is no way you will get a 30kw increase with a chip and free flow exhaust. If you are very lucky maybe 12kw. All the chip can do is to alter ignition, valve timing and fueling. Not much hp gains hidden there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboy529 View Post
    The Prado has the dual VVT v6 motor where the Hilux has the single VVT. There is a huge difference, in its standard form the dual VVT is already lighter on fuel.
    yes, as I said in post #8
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