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    Default LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    I have seen quite a few clips on YouTube.
    There Cummins has developed a new engine kit.
    You get the whole shabang in a cradle and shove it into your cruiser.
    Anyone have a Cummins in there cruiser?
    If not what diesel conversion do you do?Click image for larger version. 

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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    1HDFTE with a 1 HDT diesel pump..... Henri will be here soon.
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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    Quote Originally Posted by Uys View Post
    1HDFTE with a 1 HDT diesel pump..... Henri will be here soon.
    I dont know all the codes...
    That is?

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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    I saw a US price for a complete conversion of $40,000. Not worth it for that price, then again there might be cheaper options for the same conversion Click image for larger version. 

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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    Definitely on the heavy side
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    I saw a US price for a complete conversion of $40,000. Not worth it for that price, then again there might be cheaper options for the same conversion Click image for larger version. 

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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    Quote Originally Posted by RichisAfrika View Post
    I dont know all the codes...
    That is?
    1HDT is a 12 Valve turbo engine with mechanical pump. 1HD-FT is the same engine with 24 v. 1 HDFTe is the 24 Valve with electronic injector pump. The best range of engines for the Cruiser Toyota has built in my humble opinion. All diesel straight sixes
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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    1 HDFTe is the 24 Valve with electronic injector pump. The best range of engines for the Cruiser Toyota has built in my humble opinion. All diesel straight sixes
    Agree, and the 1hd-fte with a intercooler does some decent power, they used them in the 100 series cruisers. In australia the guys like putting that motor in 79's, 80's, 105's etc. If well looked after those engines are very reliable.






    Obviously I have to add that the 1fz-fe needs to be added to your list of best cruiser engines.

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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    The Cummins 2.8 looks great on paper. One of my biggest disappointments when I first had a drive in a vehicle fitted with one. You read about them in builds on forums, everyone rave about them but really it failed to impress me.

    Spending a R100k plus on a conversion in which you compromise reliability is not worth it.

    What is wrong with the engine of your Cruiser ?

    If fuel consumption is your headache get something like a D4D Hilux.
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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    1HDT is a 12 Valve turbo engine with mechanical pump. 1HD-FT is the same engine with 24 v. 1 HDFTe is the 24 Valve with electronic injector pump. The best range of engines for the Cruiser Toyota has built in my humble opinion. All diesel straight sixes
    No contest.

    If I might add. I have done 370,000km with mine. Same injectors. Same turbo. Not using a drop of oil.

    I will take it to Cairo, NOW...
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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    The problem with the 12 and 24 Valve engines are to get Toyota spare parts and the price if you can get . Engines are discontinued except for the 1HZ 4.2
    OK it is a donkey , but a very reliable donkey and engine & parts will be available for a very long time .
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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    Quote Originally Posted by Swart Jan View Post
    The problem with the 12 and 24 Valve engines are to get Toyota spare parts and the price if you can get . Engines are discontinued except for the 1HZ 4.2
    OK it is a donkey , but a very reliable donkey and engine & parts will be available for a very long time .
    Agreed. I still do not understand Toyota's approach with these engines. Here, in Australia and even in the USA these engines are recognised to be some of the best engines to fit to a big 4x4. Yet Toyota was seemingly very reluctant to fit them to too wide a range of engines and finally did away with them. I am sure if they take the 1 HDFTe, make it common rail and apply some modern engine management it will run with the best available today.

    Incidentally, the 1 HDFT is also available as a marine application under the Yanmar brand
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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    So Yanmar still make the 1HDFT?

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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    Quote Originally Posted by Mapog View Post
    So Yanmar still make the 1HDFT?
    Not sure. It was also sold as a Yamaha marine engine.

    https://www.yanmarmarine.com/Product...6LPA-STP2-342/
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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    Die Yanmar maak aansienlik meer krag uit die enjin as Toyota?

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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    Why is it that I think the 2,8 cummins is chinese made and had piston issues. ?Am I spreading fake news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mapog View Post
    Die Yanmar maak aansienlik meer krag uit die enjin as Toyota?
    Tipies Toyota is hulle baie down rated in die Cruisers. Daai enjin het bitter baie potensiaal

    Quote Originally Posted by plunger View Post
    Why is it that I think the 2,8 cummins is chinese made and had piston issues. ?Am I spreading fake news.
    Cummins has huge manufacturing facilities in China. Many of their engines are built there but to their spec and quality obviously.
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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    If I were to go Cummins, there are way better options than that 2.8.

    If a 6bt would fit, that would be number 1, if not 4 bt turbo.

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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    Tipies Toyota is hulle baie down rated in die Cruisers. Daai enjin het bitter baie potensiaal


    Cummins has huge manufacturing facilities in China. Many of their engines are built there but to their spec and quality obviously.
    Ah ,it wasnt the pistons it was the cylinder walls.It looks like a nice engine to me.
    I think they are good but depends in which factory it was built.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=2.8+...hrome&ie=UTF-8

    HaHa here is a post i did in 2013 asking how one would be for my jeep.The internet is an amazing thing.
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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    Quote Originally Posted by Francois Theron View Post
    Incidentally, the 1 HDFT is also available as a marine application under the Yanmar brand
    Thanks Francois never too old to learn. When I researched engines for the F250 I saw many references to the Yanmar/ Yamaha Marine diesel engines but never know they were copies of the 1 HDFT. Seems that the Marine version made around 200kw. You will need to spend big money on a Cummins 6BT to get it into that league.

    Off topic.
    Interesting as I were looking at a Ford 2704E Marine engine turbo diesel 5.9l 186kw and 726nm for the F250 build. Impossible to find in SA. Could only get a non turbo version from a Fishing Trawler. The turbo version were also used in some Ford Cargo trucks.
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    Default Re: LC 80... How about a Cummins 2.8 TB4

    You use to get those Toy engines in the bigger forklifts also .
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