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    Default 4x4 Vehicle Tug of War

    I am saying nothing..... just watch!!

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    I see in the UK the LR discovery 5 rear number plate is not off center like in SA.

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    How many tow balls broke?

    I couldn't listen, maybe they mentioned it - are they testing with the same tyres?

    On a more serious note - could the outcome be different if the 'losing' vehicle was put in reverse, speed matched and then slowly braked? (Because the moment the one breaks traction he lost?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by PieterOos View Post
    How many tow balls broke?

    I couldn't listen, maybe they mentioned it - are they testing with the same tyres?
    Is it possible to break a tow ball by pulling on them? That surface doesnt provide much traction. Im sure there is little chance of that happening in this scenario.

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    BS...

    One car pulling inline and the other with uneven load? Have u ever seen an Actros hooking a trailer behind its LHS wheels. No, because the RHS wheels will start spinning and be of no use?

    How can these guys be so DOFFF.

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    One guy undestands the difference between Static and Dynamic Friction Coefficent and the other does not....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dungbeetle View Post
    One guy undestands the difference between Static and Dynamic Friction Coefficent and the other does not....
    Indeed.

    On a slightly serious note, just how bad is this for the car? Particularly when done on dirt and not some poor bugger's immaculate lawn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Connan View Post
    Indeed.

    On a slightly serious note, just how bad is this for the car? Particularly when done on dirt and not some poor bugger's immaculate lawn?
    I would not think it's inherently bad for your car to be dragged on a dirt road like that. The tyres, sure.
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    And then there is this - Hilux vs Ranger (on the tow ball of course and with a drink in hand)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-TXCS3UI_I
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    Quote Originally Posted by Groenman View Post
    And then there is this - Hilux vs Ranger (on the tow ball of course and with a drink in hand)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-TXCS3UI_I
    That was a cringeworthy video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Groenman View Post
    And then there is this - Hilux vs Ranger (on the tow ball of course and with a drink in hand)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-TXCS3UI_I

    Again some care to explain to me why everyone here is having an issue with using a towbar in this situation? What am I missing .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaan Pot View Post
    Again some care to explain to me why everyone here is having an issue with using a towbar in this situation? What am I missing .

    Should I use the end of my exhaust pipe next time I decided to remove my brain from my head and act like a 8 year old on a Fanta Grape high?
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    I'm sorry, but tug of war contests between cars is a bit like having a dick measuring contest! And about as much sense!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markb View Post
    I'm sorry, but tug of war contests between cars is a bit like having a dick measuring contest! And about as much sense!
    Completely agree. Common AF.
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    Ja verstaan ook nie wat bereik die ouens wat dit doen nie

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    Quote Originally Posted by VossaWP View Post
    You guys have it wrong. It's fine using a Tow bar for towing and pulling. That's what it designed for.

    That YouTube video shows a tow bar being used for snatch recoveries. That coupled with kinetic ropes are extremely dangerous especially if one vehicle is stuck and the other is using too much speed.

    So is still maintain all the comments regarding the towballs being used in the videos posted of tug of war is baseless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaan Pot View Post
    You guys have it wrong. It's fine using a Tow bar for towing and pulling. That's what it designed for.

    Tiaan, you are 100% correct!! A tow like this might just bend something, whereas a snatch could snap something. The sudden load is what is dangerous!!
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    Its a ridiculous test that can never objectively prove one vehicle has more traction than the other. A force gauge attached to a trailer that gradually digs in would be more interesting....all vehicles with same tyre size, pressure and make. Also load them to identical weight.

    I will admit that I find these tug of wars mildly amusing. They must be brutal on any drivetrain though!

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