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    Default New tendency: standing up while lane splitting

    I've recently noticed a few bikers standing in the pegs while lane splitting and I can't figure out why. I've been lane splitting for more than 12 years and never saw the need to do this. In fact, it feels dangerous as surely the higher centre of gravity compromises stopping ability and maneuverability.

    What am I missing?
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    Default Re: New tendency: standing up while lane splitting

    It's a GS thing.
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    Default Re: New tendency: standing up while lane splitting

    To easily see ahead, over vehicle roofs?

    To be honest, I have not seen this behaviour in my area but when there is an accident, or the road is kind of rough, then the riders stand up, while moving slow, to see better/further ahead before sitting down and moving ahead or change lanes.

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    Default Re: New tendency: standing up while lane splitting

    Much better control over a bike standing up. The CoG is then on the pegs and not saddle.
    Also a means to stretch legs in motion.
    One can also ride much slower standing up.
    And as said, see further over other vehicles.
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    Default Re: New tendency: standing up while lane splitting

    Niel, you havenít heard of Captain Piles? If youíre a member on Wilddogs there is a whole thread dedicated to him.

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    Default Re: New tendency: standing up while lane splitting

    Quote Originally Posted by JohanMaree View Post
    Much better control over a bike standing up. The CoG is then on the pegs and not saddle.
    Also a means to stretch legs in motion.
    One can also ride much slower standing up.
    And as said, see further over other vehicles.
    No, sorry. The C of G moves higher.
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    Default Re: New tendency: standing up while lane splitting

    Nee.
    Jy is verkeerd. Dink weer

    Ons verwys hier na die geheel. Nie die lyf nie
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfh View Post
    No, sorry. The C of G moves higher.
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    Default Re: New tendency: standing up while lane splitting

    Johan, this argument has been done to death. You don’t lower your centre of gravity by standing, that is physically impossible. What you do do is allow your body much more freedom to move, and quickly, by being disconnected from the bike. Therefore you have better control. You also introduce a new set of shocks to the system, your legs, which allow you to be smoother.

    https://motorbikewriter.com/does-sta...re-of-gravity/

    If standing on a bike lowers your centre of gravity why don’t Moto GP riders stand going around corners? A lower centre of gravity would surely translate into better cornering ability, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobH View Post
    Johan, this argument has been done to death. You donít lower your centre of gravity by standing, that is physically impossible. What you do do is allow your body much more freedom to move, and quickly, by being disconnected from the bike. Therefore you have better control. You also introduce a new set of shocks to the system, your legs, which allow you to be smoother.

    https://motorbikewriter.com/does-sta...re-of-gravity/

    If standing on a bike lowers your centre of gravity why donít Moto GP riders stand going around corners? A lower centre of gravity would surely translate into better cornering ability, no?
    Johan didn't say that it lowers the cg he said it makes the bike more controllable because you are not fixed to the bike.
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    Default Re: New tendency: standing up while lane splitting

    Are the pegs higher than the saddle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    Johan didn't say that it lowers the cg he said it makes the bike more controllable because you are not fixed to the bike.
    Actually he did. He said that it moves from the seat to the pegs.
    This is basic high school science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jfh View Post
    Actually he did. He said that it moves from the seat to the pegs.
    This is basic high school science.
    Yes and if you had any comprehension of such you would deduce that because you are not seated your body is not part of the cog bar the point of contact re the footpegs
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    Default Re: New tendency: standing up while lane splitting

    Your body not seated is now independent of the bike's cog. And can actively change the cog...

    A good biker would know this...
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    Actually anyone who had a BMX would know this....

    Or even a mountain bike and actually used it
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    Default Re: New tendency: standing up while lane splitting

    OK I retract.

    CoG is the wrong word. Weight is passed to the pegs and not the seat.

    CoG has no effect in offroad on a bike. It is how you apply weight...

    The plastic riders sit to use their feet in turns...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hedgehog View Post
    Yes and if you had any comprehension of such you would deduce that because you are not seated your body is not part of the cog bar the point of contact re the footpegs

    Here's a picture of just the body. If it changes there it will have an effect on the whole.
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    Cruiser and Harley owners excluded...
    Quote Originally Posted by JohanMaree View Post
    OK I retract.

    CoG is the wrong word. Weight is passed to the pegs and not the seat.

    CoG has no effect in offroad on a bike. It is how you apply weight...

    The plastic riders sit to use their feet in turns...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfh View Post
    Here's a picture of just the body. If it changes there it will have an effect on the whole.
    Thanks for proving my point
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    Default Re: New tendency: standing up while lane splitting

    People only stand because they canít wheelie. Fact!

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