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    I would like to buy a spacious family SUV for under 150k and would really appreciate your input. I know F all about cars so I can only read advice on here before I buy.

    What I'm looking for:
    a. Very spacious with wife and 2 kids plus packing space
    b. Nice daily driver, I work from home so don't drive that much though
    c. Fair service costs
    d. Low frequency of expensive repairs(I'm looking at you discovery)


    Current options I'm considering (has to be automatic)
    +-2005 Pajero 3.8 200k+ on the clock
    +-2005 Prado 4.0 V6 250k+ on the clock
    +-2006 Discovery 3 V8 200K or less on the clock
    -- Pathfinder, but I don't really like it.

    I accept that the above options will be heavy on fuel, I'm ok with that because its predictable and manageable/budget-able. I guess my biggest concern is our favourite option above, the Discovery. In my books it equals or betters the others in a,b,c above (also looks better with better options etc).

    But how does the Discovery realistically fair against the others on D. frequency of expensive repairs. Things break and need replacing on all vehicles, but some make it sound like disco's break at extremely high rates (the picture they paint is unbelievably negative) and others say they have had nothing but good times (with out of plan discos).

    Lastly, anything else I should look at? I don't want an expensive car, I want the kids/dog to jump in after a day at the beach without cringing at every sand grain. Probably stick to Petrol, general advice is that high mileage diesel is a little riskier.

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    Hey Craig

    Can only share my experience, not clued up on the other 2.

    I'm on my 3rd Toyota V6. All 3 bought 2nd hand with 100k km plus on the clock.

    Replaced water pump on 2 of them, one was leaking and other as a precaution. Other than that, nothing but services.

    Service cost at the moment on my Fortuner is around R3500. Major service done last month (150k km), cost was around R6k.

    Must add however that i dont buy cars that aren't in mint condition, i make sure that the previous owner is as full of @*!# as I am. I wont touch a car that was abused or not cared for as i would, irrespective of the assumed reliability of the motor.

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    Bought a Touareg v8 petrol in Jan 2017 with 110k on the clock for R120k from a 86 year old owner.

    I spent approx 30k on touch ups and preventative maintinance, and now just drive it.

    Drives like a sportscar on the road, and great off-road as well.

    We use it as an overlander, not a trails weapon, and love it.

    Services with Stephan once a year, reasonably priced and great service.
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    A petrol Discovery wont cost you much more than the others in maintenance... All cars break, depends how lucky or unlucky you are. The discovery a far superior drive though. The boring Japanese options will probably always be a safer bet though.

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    [QUOTE=Craig006;4318051... I know F all about cars....

    ...Low frequency of expensive repairs...

    Current options I'm considering (has to be automatic)
    +-2005 Pajero 3.8 200k+ on the clock
    +-2005 Prado 4.0 V6 250k+ on the clock
    +-2006 Discovery 3 V8 200K or less on the clock
    -- Pathfinder, but I don't really like it.[/QUOTE]

    Only options 1,2 and 4 are viable, for what you want.

    With 15 yrs old vehicles, however, even with those 3 there will always be some costs.

    Cheers

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    The only mechanical repairs on my D3 in 4 years and about 60000km was a water pump and an air suspension sensor. About R4000 for those. I have done lots of precautionary maintenance on the diesel engine though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip72 View Post
    The only mechanical repairs on my D3 in 4 years and about 60000km was a water pump and an air suspension sensor. About R4000 for those. I have done lots of precautionary maintenance on the diesel engine though...
    What km did your car start on before the 60000km? I would be willing to pay more in costs to drive a Discovery but not if its going to cost double or triple what the other options cost.

    I'm going to start looking into a Touareg as well.

    I'll definitely be looking for the best looked after option I can find. Hopefully first owner, immaculate condition (given the age), Full service history, and hopefully a thumbs up from a trusted indy (do they offer this as service usually? a thorough technical assessment)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig006 View Post
    What km did your car start on before the 60000km? I would be willing to pay more in costs to drive a Discovery but not if its going to cost double or triple what the other options cost.

    I'm going to start looking into a Touareg as well.

    I'll definitely be looking for the best looked after option I can find. Hopefully first owner, immaculate condition (given the age), Full service history, and hopefully a thumbs up from a trusted indy (do they offer this as service usually? a thorough technical assessment)
    Bought mine with 150000km on the clock. At 210000 now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zx14 View Post
    Bought a Touareg v8 petrol in Jan 2017 with 110k on the clock for R120k from a 86 year old owner.

    I spent approx 30k on touch ups and preventative maintinance, and now just drive it.

    Drives like a sportscar on the road, and great off-road as well.

    We use it as an overlander, not a trails weapon, and love it.

    Services with Stephan once a year, reasonably priced and great service.
    I was just about to reccomend the Touareg.
    For if you like the Discovery you will most certainly love the Touareg!

    Many forum members are extremely happy with them. We have two.

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    Top of my list would be a Ford Everest 3.0 Tdci Ltd 4x4 A/t but there may be some bias because I have a Mazda BT50 3.0 4X4 Manual... effectively the same and the only difference is no diff lock on the Everest...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karoo Klong View Post
    I was just about to reccomend the Touareg.
    For if you like the Discovery you will most certainly love the Touareg!

    Many forum members are extremely happy with them. We have two.
    Touareg not as spacious in the luggage are though
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    Also had a Touareg before my Discovery. Fantastic car and surprisingly capable. The old shape with the full 4x4 package. Surprisingly spacious inside. A coin toss between a Discovery or Touareg, if it was me. Just don't see myself as a pensioner in a Japanese car yet..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nys View Post
    Touareg not as spacious in the luggage are though
    We travel alot toe Bloem for vacations and I have never felt felt there is not enough space. Especially with the rear window that opens as hatch. But I reccon some folks do like lugging slot of luggage around.

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    Was in the same position about a year and a bit ago and ended up with a 2006 Prado v6 after driving various vehicles. Kids in private school etc meant I did not have a sizeable kitty for maintenance and that was part of my decision. You will most likely enjoy the Disco and Touareg more on a daily basis (the prado is a very functional vehicle). Having owned both LR and VW vehicles in my experience the probability of maintenance requirements are a little higher.
    Another viable option would be a slightly newer Fortuner V6.
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    Buy a Patrol. Get in and go. Don't do anything. Just drive and enjoy. Yes it uses the same fuel as a V6 toyota or a Pajero. But it never breaks , never.
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    If you are concerned about maintenance cost, wouldn't it make sense to rather go with a simpler, more basic vehicle, than with a high tech barge?
    Even if you go for a Disco or Touareg with petrol engine, there is still the air suspension and other high tech stuff in the vehicle which can become costly to repair. Look at their show room prices and you get an idea what maintenance cost could await you.

    As mentioned before, at least consider something like a Nissan Patrol. Loads of space and a rather low tech vehicle.
    How about a low mileage 90 series Prado V6? You should then still have some change in order to fit an OME suspension and improve the ride quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nisjeep View Post
    Buy a Patrol. Get in and go. Don't do anything. Just drive and enjoy. Yes it uses the same fuel as a V6 toyota or a Pajero. But it never breaks , never.
    Yes - buy a Patrol
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    Nissan YD25 Pathfinder.

    Baie spasie
    8lt / 100 km
    7 sitplekke
    120 kw en 450 nm
    Baie voertuig vir billike geld
    15 000 km diens intervals.
    Sal 400,000 to 500,000 km doen voor jy na die enjin moet kyk....
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    Nissan Patrol. You wont easily find better at the Price.

    Spacious, capable, reliable, low maintenance, "different", quiet, comfortable ride.

    Its heavy yes, in Petrol - as are all the other big Petrol SUV's.

    Or a Prado V6 120 Series, also nice cars.
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