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    Default Petrol into a Diesel Freelander II

    Happy New Year to everyone!!!!

    Kindly provide an advise on whether I should be extremely worried on this case or not. I went to to filling station to fill up the Freelander II HSE TD4 for a R1000.00. The attendant mistakenly put in petrol work R389.00 about 26 litres before he discovers he's pouring incorrect fuel. Him and his colleagues convinced me it wont cause harm, he then proceeded to fill up with diesel worth R700.00 on top of the petrol. I then paid for the diesel only. I then drove for +- 20 KM's. Then went to the mall which is +- 5 KM's away but when I came out of the mall the car could not start but crank. Then went back to filling station and they owned up, and car got taken to Land Rover dealer yesterday for draining and to check for damages.
    Am now worried hence asking if the the damage could be massive.

    Thank you in advance.

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    Default Re: Petrol into a Diesel Freelander II

    Petrol in diesel car can be fatal!

    Diesel in petrol car is less risky.

    Drain all.
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    Default Re: Petrol into a Diesel Freelander II

    Problem here is the issue could be minor

    Or you could have done serious damage to the engine
    In between that it could cause issues with your fuel pump and injectors

    If someone puts wrong fuel into your car and then it comes out never ever let them convince you to drive off
    For him it is couple of hundred R and getting into ... with boss
    For you it could end up costing massive amounts and allot of fuel stations will point blank say you need to insure the right fuel in used

    good luck and hope it works out without costing you allot

    What you could have done is have them put pipe in before putting in Diesel and draining all the fuel out that is in the tank
    Then put in clean Diesel

    The 2 - 3% of Petrol that was left would have been very minor amount and then when you reached 50% of tank you could have gone fill up again to drop concentration even further
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    Default Re: Petrol into a Diesel Freelander II

    Hi Waboz,

    Really sorry to hear about your bad luck.

    In general this is not great news, but many people have had this happen and been OK.

    Interestingly (according to this article) petrol floats on top of diesel (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring...iesel-car.html)

    As the engine cranks but does not start I would think that the fuel that made it to the injectors has been contaminated, best case I would think that Land Rover will drain and flush everything with fresh diesel and see what happens.

    In terms of long term damage this would largely be unknown - diesel is used as a lubricant in the fuel system but with the ratio described below and the above article is probably minimal.

    Probably not the answer you were after, but I hope it all works out!

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    Thank you guys, I think I was naive enough as well. The booking into Land Rover dealer is for the filling station account, the owner accepted liability. They also hired me a car meantime to remain mobile. But my worry is would this car be reliable after this incident or I might have continuous issues in the near future.

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    The high pressure fuel pump and injectors are very dependent on lubrication from the diesel fuel, so there may be slow onset damage to those that may not be evident at first. But LR would know this, and the typical approach with this type of scenario (if the vehicle was driven after), is to replace fuel tank, pumps, and injectors.

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    You need to have High pressure pump and injectors replaced. Might not be a problem now but they will soon die

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    I recall the FL2 having a device, it was yellow, inside the fuel cap that would bypass petrol if it was used instead of diesel. Something along the lines of a different shaped nozzle.

    Never had to use it so don't know...

    Added: ok, so it was a tool to reset the misfueling device if the incorrect fuel is used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OceanWanderer View Post
    Interestingly (according to this article) petrol floats on top of diesel (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring...iesel-car.html)
    Just like the different layers in a shot glass do when carefully poured by your barman, but if you stir it up by moving the vehicle, then you have a mess....
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    Default Re: Petrol into a Diesel Freelander II

    How does this happen? On mine the fuel cap is bright yellow with large black letters saying DIESEL.

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    Itís bad news to my knowledge, especially if the engine already wonít start. Complete fuel system replacement is the correct procedure. HPFP fails and sends metal shavings into the entire system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waboz View Post
    Happy New Year to everyone!!!!

    ...The attendant mistakenly put in petrol work R389.00 about 26 litres before he discovers he's pouring incorrect fuel. Him and his colleagues convinced me it wont cause harm...
    Shame because at this stage you could have saved it. If you don't start the car and call the AA or similar they come and for a fee they siphon everything out. It's actually quite a standard procedure.

    In UK the AA and RAC even list the cost of it in their service price list, which makes me think that it happens quite a lot.

    The attendants were at fault here I am sorry to say.

    Don't new cars come with a tank neck that can only fit the right nozzle, or something like that?
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    I accidentally did this to my wifeís Fiesta, that was ten years ago, the car is still running. After it cut out on the highway we phoned Ford, they collected the vehicle, drained the tank and lines, replaced filter and that was all
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    Quote Originally Posted by All -in -one View Post
    I accidentally did this to my wifeís Fiesta, that was ten years ago, the car is still running. After it cut out on the highway we phoned Ford, they collected the vehicle, drained the tank and lines, replaced filter and that was all
    Alan was this petrol into a diesel Fiesta?
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    Default Re: Petrol into a Diesel Freelander II

    Older vehicles, but interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal Hannes View Post
    Alan was this petrol into a diesel Fiesta?
    Yes
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    Default Re: Petrol into a Diesel Freelander II

    Drain tank and replace filter and fill with diesel, bleed and let return line run into a separate container. Start and drive. You'll be fine.

    A bit of a mistake there from the attendant and the driver to accept the advice of the "other" person as well as not checking what fuel us going in.
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    I am always on Swambo's back about getting out and checking that the attendant has the right nozzle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waboz View Post
    Thank you guys, I think I was naive enough as well. The booking into Land Rover dealer is for the filling station account, the owner accepted liability. They also hired me a car meantime to remain mobile. But my worry is would this car be reliable after this incident or I might have continuous issues in the near future.
    After LR repaired all (IIRC LR replace all lines, pump, filter and injectors as standard practice when this happens) on the garageís account, your vehicle will be as good as new and back to its former glory.

    NO WORRIES!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regard View Post
    After LR repaired all (IIRC LR replace all lines, pump, filter and injectors as standard practice when this happens) on the garageís account, your vehicle will be as good as new and back to its former glory.

    NO WORRIES!
    That must cost an absolute mint at LR?

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