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    Default Snorkel or not?

    I have been lucky to get a new Land Cruiser 200 VXR and will be taking it for 5 weeks through Botswana in May. I have been getting a lot of conflicting advice about whether to fit a snorkel or not and is it really necessary ?

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    Personal opinion, no itís not. It wonít change the vehicle into a submarine. It looks freakin awesome and does give some ďcleanĒ cooler air to the engine. But thatís about that

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    Thats enough!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouisXander View Post
    Thats enough!!!
    to me itís much more about air, and much more of an issue if you drive in convoy.

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    Then you just add a prefilter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouisXander View Post
    Then you just add a prefilter?

    Cooler air + it looks much cooler than some silly pre-filter

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    The biggest benefit I noticed was when driving in convoy on dusty roads. Much less dust.

    Maybe also check where your cars current intake is. If it's by the wheel arch then that's pretty low and could have water ingress. Snorkels look cool, add fresh air and if there is a water crossing give you piece of mind.
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    No man, the prefilter is for when one drives in a convoy, my snorkel kop can swivel, but I've seen some of these fancy vehicles having a bodyhugging snorkel, TJM at some time used to make those too, couldn't do anything with the snorkel kop. It was a fixed future, couldn't even put a Cyclone on which is best for convoy driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouisXander View Post
    No man, the prefilter is for when one drives in a convoy, my snorkel kop can swivel, but I've seen some of these fancy vehicles having a bodyhugging snorkel, TJM at some time used to make those too, couldn't do anything with the snorkel kop. It was a fixed future, couldn't even put a Cyclone on which is best for convoy driving.

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    aha! I misunderstood— mine faces backward but its fixed - does a decent job keeping the air clean - but one of those would be even better...
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    The 200 GX comes standard with a snorkel, says something about the application of the vehicle. Toy must have done some research before adding this as a standard feature.
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    If you like the snort sound coming from the snorkel...

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    The G-wagen Professional comes with a snorkel, but the 350 bluetec not.

    With the 350's computers under the seat and wade depth limited to 600mm it is understandable. Then also, it would require 2 snorkels. One in either side.
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    Been to many places in Botswana, Namibia etc., umpteen times; with different vehicles: No snorkel ever - no problems ever!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobMc View Post
    I have been lucky to get a new Land Cruiser 200 VXR and will be taking it for 5 weeks through Botswana in May. I have been getting a lot of conflicting advice about whether to fit a snorkel or not and is it really necessary ?
    Is your cruiser petrol or diesel?

    I think that with older turbo diesels there might be a bit of an increase in power, anecdotally. Or is it all in the head/mind?

    Also good as a nesting place. Some flycatchers and other small birds like to nest on the head/intake, if you leave the car sitting in a quiet place for long enough.
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    Thanks for the replies - think I will stick with no snorkel. The Toyota dealer also tells me that cutting the hole in the bodywork for the snorkel can lead to rust problems here at the coast.

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    The manual of the v6 Cruiser states less power with a snorkel as find in other markets. I have done serious temperature and flow tests on my 76 Cruiser with snorkel connected and disconnected. A snorkel is for cosmetics only. Other than a sealed unit for deep water crossings all other claims are unfounded. Please post links to lab tests with snorkels that proof cold air intake and dust reduction. I mean hardcore lab facts not some wannabe YouTubers video claim with unfounded facts. The only way to test filter dust reduction is by before and after weighing of filters with and with out snorkel in exact lab conditions.

    On my v8 Cruiser the snorkel is only a noise induction add on.
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    How often do you drive in convoy? Fitting a Donaldson Cyclone filter below the bonnet will remove any convoy dust before it enters the integral actual filter and is much cheaper than a snorkel. Easy to clean out too. Regarding cooler air, how many degrees cooler? The air is just going to be heated up when it gets compressed in the turbo anyway.

    If you want the snorkel for wading you have a lot more work to do. Your vehicle was not designed as a submarine. You will need to seal all the electronics and electrics first. The lowest part will be the axles which have pressure equalising breathers. A sudden plunge into (Relatively) cold water will cause the air inside the axles to contract. This will draw air into the axle. If the equalising valves are under the water, this will draw water into the axle, mixing it with the oil. Pipes need to be attached to these valves to bring their height to above the max wading depth. Not to forget the clutch that doesn't like water at all. My 45 year old Landy Series 2A actually has a sealed clutch bell housing as OEM.

    But, I suppose a snorkel looks cool on a vehicle permanently fitted with Jerry cans, gas bottles, sand tracks, hi lift jack and a RTT that is only used on weekends to the mall and parked on the pavement or in the disabled parking. My wife always looks under them to see if they have ever been off a tar road. Most haven't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grips View Post
    The manual of the v6 Cruiser states less power with a snorkel as find in other markets. I have done serious temperature and flow tests on my 76 Cruiser with snorkel connected and disconnected. A snorkel is for cosmetics only. Other than a sealed unit for deep water crossings all other claims are unfounded. Please post links to lab tests with snorkels that proof cold air intake and dust reduction. I mean hardcore lab facts not some wannabe YouTubers video claim with unfounded facts. The only way to test filter dust reduction is by before and after weighing of filters with and with out snorkel in exact lab conditions.

    On my v8 Cruiser the snorkel is only a noise induction add on.
    This has been my experience as well with my V6 Colt. I bought it 2nd hand with snorkel already installed.

    A trusted workshop with dyno in my area was doing some fine tuning for me on the Colt. He showed me the dyno results with and without snorkel (disconnected the snorklel from airfilter housing). The end result, Colt gained 8kw with snorkel disconnected.

    I bought a new fender for the Colt, removed the snorkel and old fender and fitted the new one. Air filter is so inexpensive on the Colt, I replace it happily every service and in between if necessary.

    Whenever I drive in a convoy I make the distance between me and the vehicle in front bigger, also most of the time any crosswind (half or full value) blows the dust away.
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    There goes my whole reasoning for a snorkel.....

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    Default Re: Snorkel or not?

    I never saw the need for a snorkel , as mentioned it does not work for water crossings and the airflow is bad so their will be loss in power , with sand etc its all over the place so I dont think it helps , but it looks good . manufactures design the air intake so if the vehicle did not come with one dont fit one
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