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    Quote Originally Posted by SAND View Post
    A bit harsh...
    It sounds harsh. I have done many stupid things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainier Vermaak View Post
    The first red light for me would be the fact that Toyota never admits liability or does recalls in the first place.
    Yeah. I have had to take my Hilux in twice for recall items but that's just the thing. Who picks up a vehicle on a flatbed from your home or work? As far as I know it is up to the owners to take it in to a dealership.
    If a manufacturer had to collect vehicles for recalls they would go broke doing so.

    I would think that if you hand over your vehicle keys to someone without verifying and it disappears, the insurance company will ask some awkward questions...
    If Force is not the solution, not enough of it was applied....

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    Quote Originally Posted by plunger View Post
    It sounds harsh. I have done many stupid things.
    Like all of us...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pietsweis View Post
    Yeah. I have had to take my Hilux in twice for recall items but that's just the thing. Who picks up a vehicle on a flatbed from your home or work? As far as I know it is up to the owners to take it in to a dealership.
    If a manufacturer had to collect vehicles for recalls they would go broke doing so.

    I would think that if you hand over your vehicle keys to someone without verifying and it disappears, the insurance company will ask some awkward questions...
    Sure, but then insurance companies have an scapegoat with hijackings.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel 4x4 View Post
    Sure, but then insurance companies have an scapegoat with hijackings.....
    I agree with you to an extent, but in a life and death situation vs a scam where there is no direct threat to the person and someone willingly surrenders his keys and lets the scammers drive off with the vehicle, I'm sure the first scenario would be much easier to explain.

    Would like to hear the response from a specialist in the field.
    If Force is not the solution, not enough of it was applied....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel 4x4 View Post
    Sure, but then insurance companies have an scapegoat with hijackings.....
    Difference is:

    Willingly gave the keys vs forced to give the keys
    Always think: Could this be sarcasm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel 4x4 View Post
    I looked at my policy Tís and Cís, what they donít cover - donít see anything related to trickery. Would you mind sharing the name of your insurance company? Iím with Alexander Forbes.
    Rather look at what they DO cover...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel 4x4 View Post
    Sure, but then insurance companies have an scapegoat with hijackings.....
    With hijackings there is the threat of violence to make you hand over you vehicle, you don't just hand your keys to any guy walking past do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by supersunbird View Post
    Rather look at what they DO cover...
    True.

    If they don't specifically cover it, it is excluded.

    ... and then there are clauses with contentious words like "negligence", "due care" etc, which are used to ensure you get paid. Not!!!
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    We honestly need a face palm icon Some of the reasoning on this thread...... eish.

    From previous discussions on the forum, I can remember that insurance companies expect you to take reasonable precautions and care to keep your vehicle safe. They certainly don't expect you to take a bullet for it in a hijacking however.

    BUT if you leave your car at a car wash with the keys and it gets stolen, your claim is probably going to get rejected.

    If you willingly hand over your keys and vehicle (especially a Toyota nogal) to a random person without verifying anything, like for this scam, your claim will obviously be rejected. I cannot understand how anyone can think otherwise or even try and compare it with a hijacking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lekhubu943 View Post
    We honestly need a face palm icon Some of the reasoning on this thread...... eish.

    From previous discussions on the forum, I can remember that insurance companies expect you to take reasonable precautions and care to keep your vehicle safe. They certainly don't expect you to take a bullet for it in a hijacking however.

    BUT if you leave your car at a car wash with the keys and it gets stolen, your claim is probably going to get rejected.

    If you willingly hand over your keys and vehicle (especially a Toyota nogal) to a random person without verifying anything like for this scam, your claim will obviously be rejected. I cannot understand how anyone can think otherwise or even try and compare it with a hijacking.
    Phoned up my insurance. Asked them the question. Got my answer. I think you need to do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel 4x4 View Post
    Phoned up my insurance. Asked them the question. Got my answer. I think you need to do the same.

    Think you are right, get a face palm icon ASAP.
    What was the answer?

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    So what happens if you take your vehicle for a service to a dealer and it gets stolen from them.
    Keys also missing as some of them leave them in the ignition.
    Person arrives to collect the vehicle as if they are you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by supersunbird View Post
    What was the answer?
    You need to open a case of theft at the cop shop. Normal procedure will follow. This is with my insurance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LenArtman View Post
    So what happens if you take your vehicle for a service to a dealer and it gets stolen from them.
    Keys also missing as some of them leave them in the ignition.
    Person arrives to collect the vehicle as if they are you.
    According to some, you have to walk home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LenArtman View Post
    So what happens if you take your vehicle for a service to a dealer and it gets stolen from them.
    Keys also missing as some of them leave them in the ignition.
    Person arrives to collect the vehicle as if they are you.
    I guess you phone your insurance and they pay out. Vastly different situation than to handing your key to a criminal and waving him goodbye as he drives away with your car.

    Another question which I think is just as valid.
    If you punch your credit card details into a dodgy website for a online special that just seems too good to be true, and you never get the product?

    Do you then claim the money back from the bank?
    If Force is not the solution, not enough of it was applied....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel 4x4 View Post
    You need to open a case of theft at the cop shop. Normal procedure will follow. This is with my insurance.
    So the issue might actually be if the police will open a case of theft for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel 4x4 View Post
    You need to open a case of theft at the cop shop. Normal procedure will follow....
    Okay......so you had to phone your insurance to find that out You were not aware of this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel 4x4 View Post
    Phoned up my insurance. Asked them the question. Got my answer. I think you need to do the same.

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    I am still waiting for the punch line as to why I need to phone my insurance as you kindly suggested. And what question must I ask?
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    Same scam from Suzuki also - just received this mail:

    There is a scam that has made its rounds with regards to car dealerships, specifically if you have recently purchased a new vehicle.
    Here is information that you should know.
    Criminals are allegedly contacting customers and advising of a "Recall Campaign" that has been called out due to problems with the steering column on some vehicles. Customers are then told that the dealership will arrange a low bed to collect the vehicle from them. They will tell you that the process takes two days but once your car has been towed away you are no longer able to contact the person who initiated the process. This all takes place outside of working hours.
    Should there be a service campaign or recall, Suzuki Customer Care will call you and arrange for you to take your car to a dealership to effect the repair. If you receive a call from someone claiming to be from Suzuki, please verify that with your dealership.
    Please be vigilant and alert during this time of the year as there is an increase in scams, frauds and theft.
    2013 Suzuki Jimny


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    I wonder if the police record it as theft or fraud, and if as fraud, whether insurance covers against fraud....
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