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    Default Lead Carbon Batteries

    Lead Carbon batteries are designed for applications that require fast charging and are frequently partially charged. In short, use them only in cycling applications. You can charge them at much higher rates to get them full faster. Up to 4 times faster. They can operate in a partial state of charge as long as they are fully charged at least every 10 cycles.
    Do not use them for standby use. IE UPS. (when the battery is constantly on float charge) Not for this application. Here you want to use AGM.
    Lead-carbon batteries use functional activated carbon and graphene as carbon materials, which are added to the negative plate of the battery to make lead carbon batteries have the advantages of both lead-acid batteries and super capacitors. It not only improves the ability of rapid charge ability of rapid charge and discharge, but also greatly prolongs the battery life, more than 2000 cycles at 80%DOD. It is more suitable for the application
    of PSOC.

    https://batteriesonline.co.za/lead-carbon-batteries/

    AVAILABLE IN 100AH & 200AH

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    Many thanks for the info

    Question : How vibration and transport resistant are they - suited for off road applications ?
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    Default Re: Lead Carbon Batteries

    Morning.

    For off-road applications I would rather suggest an AGM battery.

    The recommended applications are as per below:


    • Home energy storage system
    • Smart power grid and micro-grid system
    • Distributed energy storage system
    • Solar and wind energy storage system
    • Solar power generation grid or off-grid energy storage system
    • Generation and battery hybrid energy storage system


    It was designed for applications that require fast charging and are frequently partially charged. In short, use them only in cycling applications. You can charge them at much higher rates to get them full faster. Up to 4 times faster. They can operate in a partial state of charge as long as they are fully charged at least every 10 cycles.
    Do not use them for standby use. IE UPS. (when the battery is constantly on float charge) Not for this application. Here you want to use AGM.
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    Default Re: Lead Carbon Batteries

    I find that a very strange response.

    I have to ask why.

    Lead carbon seems appears much better suited to off-road from what I can determine.
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    Default Re: Lead Carbon Batteries

    Hi Fluffy

    Unless you use it EVERY DAY it is not suggested by the manufacturer.

    Do not use them for standby use. IE UPS. (when the battery is constantly on float charge)

    Will see if I can get more info RE WHY.
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    Default Re: Lead Carbon Batteries

    To me off-road use is the ultimate cycling application, not a standby UPS application. Quite the opposite.

    Exactly what lead carbon is best at.

    And because they excel at partial charge they can be left between camping trips to self discharge without the risk of sulphate game damage.
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    Default Re: Lead Carbon Batteries

    The problem is that our aux batteries remain fully charged most of the time (70-90%) while we use the vehicle for normal use, without having fridges and other camping stuff connected. While on trips, they would be perfect where they would cycle properly.

    Do they store well without a charge? If so, disconnect them between outings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    To me off-road use is the ultimate cycling application, not a standby UPS application. Quite the opposite.

    Exactly what lead carbon is best at.

    And because they excel at partial charge they can be left between camping trips to self discharge without the risk of sulphate game damage.
    Especially those like me who have a battery bank in my camper trailer.......

    Watching this thread with real interest.
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    Saw lead carbon batteries while looking for new batteries, but did not know what their purpose (use) was. Ended getting this:
    https://sinetechstore.co.za/shop/bat...-vrla-battery/
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    Default Re: Lead Carbon Batteries

    Reading up on Lead Carbon batteries indicates they should be charged around 14.7 Volts

    That leaves many existing installed Camping systems non-compatible.....
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    Default Re: Lead Carbon Batteries

    Adverts without prices is mildly infuriating
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    Frustrating, even added to quote there is no indication of price on the website.

    Just to have an idea of what something costs I do not really want to complete my complete contact details, family history and favourite colour

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    Don't forget, they also want to know the colour of the underpants your grandfather wore at the time of his death!!

    It irks me as well, I am not asking for a relationship and a buddy request, I only need to know the price to be able to make an informed decision!!
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    Default Re: Lead Carbon Batteries

    Following with interest as I saw an ad in my location for Lead carbon battery

    https://www.gumtree.co.za/a-other-el...50910015322809

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