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    Default Re: The Puma that went, then didn't go & then went again....

    I had the same problem a month or so back.
    It's a known problem.
    This is likely to be the splined drive at the rear of the gearbox, between the gearbox and the transfer case. It's a dry splined joint and wears out.
    There is a fix from Ascroft transmissions in the UK.
    https://www.ashcroft-transmissions.c...shaft-kit.html

    More info

    http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co....pdf?769007971

    Not a cheap fix, but worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by del1955 View Post
    I had the same problem a month or so back.
    It's a known problem.
    This is likely to be the splined drive at the rear of the gearbox, between the gearbox and the transfer case. It's a dry splined joint and wears out.
    There is a fix from Ascroft transmissions in the UK.
    https://www.ashcroft-transmissions.c...shaft-kit.html

    More info

    http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co....pdf?769007971

    Not a cheap fix, but worth it.
    that would course no drive as the shaft spins, his one had a seazed and then drive again
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    Quote Originally Posted by del1955 View Post
    I had the same problem a month or so back.
    It's a known problem.
    This is likely to be the splined drive at the rear of the gearbox, between the gearbox and the transfer case. It's a dry splined joint and wears out.
    There is a fix from Ascroft transmissions in the UK.
    https://www.ashcroft-transmissions.c...shaft-kit.html

    More info

    http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co....pdf?769007971

    Not a cheap fix, but worth it.
    Not the same problem. What you referring to is the common fretting and eventual failure of the gearbox output shaft. You would not find evidence of this failure in the transfer case oil, as shavings.

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    Update: The culprit - ouput shaft bearing. Not for sensitive viewers...
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    Default Re: The Puma that went, then didn't go & then went again....

    What is the casing like where the outer race seats in is that still ok or did it wear as resulting of race spinning
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    Quote Originally Posted by clivemd View Post
    What is the casing like where the outer race seats in is that still ok or did it wear as resulting of race spinning
    Worn, getting that replaced at the same time.
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    Default Re: The Puma that went, then didn't go & then went again....

    I Would think that there would have been some serious noise when it reaches that point..
    Then again , neither of my Puma's are dead quite inside

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-tox View Post
    I Would think that there would have been some serious noise when it reaches that point..
    Then again , neither of my Puma's are dead quite inside
    I would think the same but unfortunately there was very little warning for this. 5 km from the first hint of a noise until destruction.
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    Default Re: The Puma that went, then didn't go & then went again....

    when last was the transmission oil replaced and what was used as a replacement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    when last was the transmission oil replaced and what was used as a replacement?
    I asked and paid for it to be done 20 000km ago... I'm thinking it wasn't properly done if at all. Not sure what was used.

    What would you suggest and how often?

    I will be doing it myself in future.
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    Think that is the exact same bearing that went on mine, it is the back tapered bearing on the center diff, when nine went had to change the casing,

    pre load on those taper bearings must be set right
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spook13 View Post
    I asked and paid for it to be done 20 000km ago... I'm thinking it wasn't properly done if at all. Not sure what was used.

    What would you suggest and how often?

    I will be doing it myself in future.
    Whatever a FORD mechanic recommends for the MT82 6-speed. LR is NOTORIOUS for not putting appropriate oils in their gearboxes. It's a FORD box. Only the transfer case is an LT230.

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    I use liqui moly on all my landies, my 2 pumas since 2009 and gear changes are smooth and quite (for a landy)
    But all is relevant

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    On the road again. :-)
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    That was quick?
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    Default Re: The Puma that went, then didn't go & then went again....

    To OP, if you can please tell me - what could have prevented this, if at all?? Cost to repair??

    Ek over analyze al weer........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petri Oosthuizen View Post
    To OP, if you can please tell me - what could have prevented this, if at all?? Cost to repair??

    Ek over analyze al weer........
    I don't think we will be able to pin point exactly what the cause was, but I would imagine that with regular oil quantity checks and replacement ever now an then, all should go well.

    Not sure how frequently the oil should be changed though, I guess every 60 - 80 000k?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo View Post
    That was quick?
    Ja pretty quick hey? Very happy.
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