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    Hi Forum Members

    I was thinking about this earlier today, were Lead Crystal batteries a scam?

    Been browsing for batteries recently and you hardly see these batteries for sale anymore?
    They were supposed to be the next big thing better that Gel and AGM
    longer life cycles, deeper discharge faster charging etc etc... on paper they were all good.

    They were all the hype between 2014-2017 (3 years) and seemed to have faded away.
    (coincidentally 2-3 years was the point that they failed for a number of users)

    i'd like to rest my thoughts on this, which is why i'm wondering if this was just a scam?

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    Default Re: Was Lead Crystal a Scam ?

    Quote Originally Posted by delwynv View Post
    Hi Forum Members

    I was thinking about this earlier today, were Lead Crystal batteries a scam?

    Been browsing for batteries recently and you hardly see these batteries for sale anymore?
    They were supposed to be the next big thing better that Gel and AGM
    longer life cycles, deeper discharge faster charging etc etc... on paper they were all good.

    They were all the hype between 2014-2017 (3 years) and seemed to have faded away.
    (coincidentally 2-3 years was the point that they failed for a number of users)

    i'd like to rest my thoughts on this, which is why i'm wondering if this was just a scam?
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    Default Re: Was Lead Crystal a Scam ?

    I am still using two 150AH LC batteries, +3 and +4 years old respectively. I did have one die on me within the first two months, and sadly during our tour to Kgalagadi in 2015.

    The one in the back of my Hilux got warm and bulged early last year, just our of warrantee. I connected my trusty 220V 15A Victron charger, selected recondition, left a few days on charge and it is performing like new, very strange .

    Edit: my experience is they hate heat and vibration.
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    Default Re: Was Lead Crystal a Scam ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BruceHun View Post
    made way for newer technology
    Example? Lithium? They sound great, but the price is out of reach for most.

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    I have 2 x 100a/h LC batteries in the back of my d/c for last 4 years. Have done over 50,000km of trips with them over the worst roads imaginable. They are still perfect. I have 4 friends with similar setup. One has 2 x 150 a/h LC batteries in his cruiser m/ home. They are really working hard. None of us have problems. Main thing, keep them out of the engine bay and they will last in my opinion. I would much rather use them over any other battery.
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    ... yes , always thought so ...
    ... point is did / do they last 3 times
    as long as other good batteries
    eg AGMs ?

    ... because thats what they cost ...
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    Default Re: Was Lead Crystal a Scam ?

    Quote Originally Posted by CalDriver View Post
    Example? Lithium? They sound great, but the price is out of reach for most.
    i would not confirm nor deny your statement.. as the use for lithium is not portable power ( cost vs use too expensive)
    use is for OFF GRID power.. not back up power.

    ANY lead acid battery has inherited the same flaw as there predecessors.... internal resistance.. some more some less.. but its still there.

    you buy what you can afford .. for the purpose.

    from tubular ( maintainable )
    to Valve regulated gel ( supposedly non maintainable )

    my 2c

    adding to my comment.. if I had nice deep pockets.. ill install lion batteries.. however the charging system ( if connected to my car ) will have to be altered..or actually just removed.. I will feel safer
    else best way is to have its own standalone AC charger when at home or campsite that has power and naturally its own solar charger.. incidental the solar charger system can be 3 x smaller than for LA.. as there is hardly any losses between charge and discharge..

    2.5c now.. lol


    sorry a bit more.. I actually run live ( real live test) on batteries .. low amps, high amps combination etc.. So what you take out (and how) and vs what ( and how) you put back into the battery effect the batt life span big time...
    if one uses a non inverter based setup.. ( LOW AMPS) lead acid lead crystal , crystal meth, they will last you years.. as long as you discharge AND then recharge them correctly.. also maintain your terminals and cables.. and test and check your charging system.. too much .. too fast.. even worse than running a battery flat.

    3c.. ok im done.
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    Default Re: Was Lead Crystal a Scam ?

    I have 3 Lead Crystal 105AH.

    One is 6 years old, down to 80% capacity/performance, and I abused it. One is 5 years old, probably 95% capacity/performance, took better care of this one.
    One is new, bought last month.

    They served me well over the years.

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    Default Re: Was Lead Crystal a Scam ?

    Ek het 2 x 120ah lead crystal batterye en vir meer as 4 jaar en geen probleem nie.

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    Default Re: Was Lead Crystal a Scam ?

    I’ve had 3 AGMs...
    ones new , this year
    one died at about 6 years
    one is near the end now - at 10 yrs .
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    Default Re: Was Lead Crystal a Scam ?

    Quote Originally Posted by BushNomad View Post
    I’ve had 3 AGMs...
    ones new , this year
    one died at about 6 years
    one is near the end now - at 10 yrs .
    10yrs is impressive.

    AGM would also be lower maintenence due to no distilled water top-ups needed, when not in use just keep them trickle charged and ideally stored in dry cool conditions?

    Any tips you can please share with us on good battery practise after your years of experience with these batteries?
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    Default Re: Was Lead Crystal a Scam ?

    I have 3 x 120AHr in the camper - no issues with vibrations etc after about 3 or 4 years. The 2 x 100AHr in my old Defender (sold) are still going strong. They must be about 8 years old.

    But, we also used them at work for high sites, and we had a few failures. Many are still going strong after 8 years (same age as the one in the Defender). Quality control in the factory must have been an issue - Deltec apparently had to replace quite a few batteries under guarantee which some say is the reason why they stopped importing them.
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    Default Re: Was Lead Crystal a Scam ?

    Mine is 8 years old and still working 100%.
    Regularly tested on the Nossob corrugations without problems.
    I would buy again except for the much higher price now.

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