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    Default Re: R350 000.00 What would you buy?

    Dear Raider 4x4

    I have a beautiful 2012 Prado VX Petrol ( Pearl White ) with 148,000km with Front Runner Roof Rack, Dual Battery system, Nudge Bar full service history, and 2 brand new spare wheels (BF Goodrich A/t) in great condition. That's what you can get for R350k

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    I am advertising, for a friend of mine, a 2013 Amarok on the classifieds with little kiplos and excellent condition. Only snag, not automatic. You can contact me should you be interested, and if you have not bought yet. I did not read all the post's. Rudy

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    3.2 Pajero LWB! beste kar vir daai geld. jy gaan n 2012/13 kry met min km op

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    Default Re: R350 000.00 What would you buy?

    Ford Ranger - comfortable, great engine. Good long term buy but unfortunately you will have to buy second-hand.

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    If you let go on the 4x4 you can have an almost new Everest 2.2 xl auto. How often do you really use the 4x4 and if you have a Triton 4x4 do you really need another?

    We bought a new one for my wife and it can do everything I need it to. Take me hunting once a year, tow and launch my boat. Take us on family holidays. Unless you really seak out holiday destinations where you need the ability, you end up paying a lot of money for a feature that you might use. And with babies and small kids you are not likely to do 4x4 trails as a family activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaan Pot View Post
    That is uncalled for. You don't even know his wife. Not all woman are made the same. We all know how hard the ride is in Toyota and the hard ride and bouncy suspension (that only Toyota can manage to get wrong) is even noticed by the most casual observer.

    Anycase seeing that it has already been mentioned a second hand Amarok is definitely the one to go for. Even a second hand Touareg would be absolutely perfect. Nothing else will even come close I promise you

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    Tiaan you are 100 percent right Amarok or Treg they drive like Limmo.
    she wont regret after test driving both

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    Quote Originally Posted by Africa_Trekker View Post
    Definitely, absolutely, unequivocally, and without a doubt...NOT!

    I was the very happy owner of a 2011 LWB 2.0Tdi Kombi as well as a 2006 2.0Tdi Touran (had the 2.0Tdi Golf before) which I happily imported from SA for 16.5% of their value. I too had plans to drive them till the wheels came off.

    Sadly after just 2,5years VW had managed to not only make more than N$200,000 out of me in services and breakdowns directly due to their poor workmanship. (Broken timing belt pully stud just 200kms after the service. Entire top half of the engine had to be replaced. Not to mention a broken fan belt just 2000kms after being replaced which broke the water pump and power steering pump) but they lied to me and I caught them red handed in their lies multiple times.

    In a matter of 2 weeks I sold both my VWs and will never own one again as long as I live in Namibia. I still like a VW but VW Namibia are sharks and liars.
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    I went through the same exercise recently after I had some mechanical issues with a popular brand diesel D/C bakkie in Botswana. I wanted something that had more dealerships and spared availability in neighbouring countries. Let us leave it here as I don't want to do brand bashing. I had a similar budget and considered the following vehicles:
    1. Toyota Prado 4.0 V6.
    2. Toyota FJ Cruiser 4.0 V6.
    3. Nissan Patrol 4.8.
    4. Nissan Patrol 3.0 TD.
    5. Mitsubishi Pajero 3.2 DiD.
    6. Fortuner (petrol or diesel).
    7. Toyota Land Cruiser 76.

    I wanted to go with an SUV as this is also my daily drive and the bakkie was a bit of a pain to maneuver in tight parking spots and I was not using the functionality that often. I had to find a vehicle before my next planned trip in June 2019 (this was during April 2019). I have a 2 year old son and there is another boy on the way.

    Here are my comments on the vehicles:


    1. Toyota Prado 4.0 V6. Good option. Great space and vehicle. Although the available models had a higher mileage.
    2. Toyota FJ Cruiser 4.0 V6. I always wanted one. Concern was regarding the practicality and the suicide doors. Could get a 2013 model with OEM extended fuel tank and crawl control for Fortuner prices!
    3. Nissan Patrol 4.8. Great vehicle but the fuel consumption is hectic considering that this was a daily drive.
    4. Nissan Patrol 3.0 TD. Was concerned about the engine "hand grenade" issue with older models. Could not find a suitable vehicle in the time-frame that I had available.
    5. Mitsubishi Pajero 3.2 DiD. Models that I test drove had rattles and squeaks. Was concerned about the cost of servicing.
    6. Fortuner (petrol or diesel). Practical vehicle but just couldn't see myself driving one.
    7. Toyota Land Cruiser 76. Could not find a model that ticked all the boxes in my price range. Was also concerned about the oil change and service intervals.


    I ended up getting a 2013 FJ Cruiser. I have not regretted it. Comfortable on the road. Great off-road. Refined engine and plenty of power and torque. It actually works well for me for the toddler as it is easy to unload him from the baby seat using the suicide doors. The suicide windows are also not that bad for him as there is less of a chance of the sun shining in his face (toddlers don't seem to like that!). Obviously the space in the boot is not that great compared to a bakkie but not that bad either. We have a roof rack for longer trips and I plan on getting a small lightweight off-road trailer. I have traveled in the FJ with 2 adults and the toddler in the back. They said that the space is fine and the visibility is not that bad. Getting in and out is a bit problematic as the FJ is lifted. It is not a car for 4 adults! I will probably keep the FJ and get a Prado later.

    The FJ is just such a great car and puts a smile on my face everyday! Fuel consumption is about 7.5 km/l in town (roof rack removed) and also the same on the open road, fully loaded with roof rack. The FJ is stock apart from the suspension lift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renagade View Post
    It is something you have answered yourself already

    You have a Mitsubishi product which you are every happy with.

    Simple answer, A Pajero.

    Best value for money capable 4x4 on the market.

    Most comfortable seating, and heated seats for winter mornings.

    Massive loading area.

    Independent suspension all round and disc brakes all round.

    Will stand it's ground against ANY other 4x4.

    Low servicing costs.

    One of the lightest fuel consumption vehicles in it's class, specially knowing the others are 4.0 liter and 5.0 liter and some times even bigger engines.

    Parts are easily available and importantly there was only one diesel motor used in Southern Africa, so no matter where you go you will find somebody to assist you, not that they ever let you down.

    Read any report and the first word that comes up is reliability, time and time again.

    Petrol's are a little heavier on juice but are just as hardy.

    Your choice is a Pajero 5 door.
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    Wel in my geval en al die ander waarvan ek persoonlik weet is dit. Dalk was jou vriende s'n deurgetrek of in 'n ongeluk voor die tyd.
    En nou soek ons n ander engine

    Main bearings gehardloop.

    Of ek sal die ding moet rebuild
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    Ek kan dit nie glo nie. Die selfde vriendin wie se pajero se engine gekalf het, se man het n 3.2 triton.

    En raai wat het nou gebeur... hy het ook nou bearings gehardloop.
    Of baie erge bad luck, of die engines is maar bad. 2/2 in selfde gesin, selfde fout, is vir my n groot toeval.

    Such is life
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    The family seems to be the common denominator
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    Nog nooit van te vore, in 20 jaar elk se ry, het een van hulle n bearing op hul vorige voertuie gehardloop. So ek weet nie, nou het man en vrou elk een verloor in 2 maande.

    So enigste gemene deler is op die stadium 3.2 did.

    Maar ek is seker dit is bad luck.
    Maar bulletproof is hulle obviously nie...
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    I'd hazard a guess at the common denominator being the person who serviced both vehicles last and the oil they used. If the oil isn't the correct specification or is contaminated the engines will die very quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul#25 View Post
    I'd hazard a guess at the common denominator being the person who serviced both vehicles last and the oil they used. If the oil isn't the correct specification or is contaminated the engines will die very quickly.
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    Nou vir die pret om te begin met die onbreekbare 3.2...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reenen View Post
    Ek kan dit nie glo nie. Die selfde vriendin wie se pajero se engine gekalf het, se man het n 3.2 triton.

    En raai wat het nou gebeur... hy het ook nou bearings gehardloop.
    Of baie erge bad luck, of die engines is maar bad. 2/2 in selfde gesin, selfde fout, is vir my n groot toeval.

    Such is life
    Reenen, something wrong there. The 3,2 motor is one of the very best ever made, they are high mileage vehicles that keep on going. That "family" needs to look at their service records or cheap engine oil they are using. If you change oil and air filters within the around 10 000Km range and use a good (read ...expensive & preferably full synthetic oil) engine oil that motor will give you up to 700 000Km
    Back to OP ... look at the Pajero's what a great car at a good price in the 2nd hand market.

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    Een het vir jare gehou, een nie.

    It is what it is.

    Nou vir reg maak.
    Hul 3.2 triton is darem klaar reg.
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    Gents, best of 2020 to all and thank you for all the replies in this thread, very informative and interesting ideas as to what to purchase.

    Since my last reply I have had a new look on this vehicle purchase conundrum. An option that we are now looking at is using Triton as the daily drive, installing the drawer system again for all the baby gear and groceries that’s needed and then investing in a newer 4x4 DC for our holidays.

    The new vehicle will then also be kitted as needed, but nothing outrageous, most critical items only.

    What the vehicle will be used for now has also changed abit in seeing that this will now be the primary vehicle for our lifestyle, which includes:
    · Pretending to farm
    · Hunting
    · Overlanding – this is the big factor as I want to do a solo trip to Mount Kenia in the near future.
    · Karoo exploring trips with 4x4 trails.
    · Long term vehicle, we don’t sell and buy the newest shapes and models as they get released, I like to keep the vehicle past the 5 year mark – If this is the last vehicle I buy to retire with one day I will be very happy.

    Ok, so what have I been looking at brand and model wise, firstly I have upped the budget to R450k in extreme circumstances:


    1. Land Cruiser 79 Double Cab V6 or V8 if there is one within budget, problem here is you will buy a 2011-2014 model with 150k km on, if the V8 then the kilos will be a lot more – is a Land Cruiser really necessary for my needs or is it purely an itch that I have been having for a while that needs scratching?



    1. Toyota Hilux Revo 2.4 Double Cab Auto or manual – yes admittedly I have had the 2.8 Extra cab manual and sold it that I wasn’t overly impressed with the vehicle at that price point. My concern with this vehicle is will the engine and components be reliable as the Cruisers for holidays in Nam, Bots and the Kenia trip I want to do, specifically can this vehicle get old without mayor reliability issues, we travel alone to remote places so reliability is a big factor here. Price range here is anywhere from R330K to R430K for a much newer vehicle with anywhere from 50K km to 100K km.



    1. Mitsubishi Triton 2.4 4x4 Double Cab Auto 2016-2018, here is the big question, for R390K you can buy a 2018 (Athlete) with 30K km on the clock, I have seen Tritons for R350K with 50K km on the clock, this to me seems as the best choice financially, but Can this new engine and components, specifically the body work handle more remote locations and touring?


    I am measuring and weighing up all of the options against my trusty 2010 Stoffel die Triton, auto gearbox, strong reliable 3.2 engine, I have had complete trust in Stoffel in all our adventures but thinking that now with 216 000km on the clock and the fact that we need a second vehicle it might be time to retire Stoffel to a more leisurely lifestyle.

    The Question does arise as to why don’t buy a family orientated fuel efficient sedan, because I wear short shorts and have a beard – just kidding, My wife and baba is very happy in Stoffel and it is a great car with a lots of great memories.

    Gents, thank you for the opportunity to share my vehicle purchasing conundrum with you all.

    Blessings to all.

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    I unfortunately don't have pics of my 3.2 Mitsus on low bed, I have however put my toughts together on a thread here regarding one of them.

    https://www.4x4community.co.za/forum...e-a-3-2-Triton

    It seems to mirror your opinion about your Stoffel, which it now seems doesn't count.

    Rather buy the Cruiser, you can't go wrong with the obvious choice.

    EDIT: The Pajero 3.2 is almost on 300k also, which I will have to do the same tribute to once there.
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