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    Default Baviaans Kloof and Kouga Route Road Conditions

    Hi all

    I see a lot of threads where people (especially people outside of the EC) ask about the road conditions in the Baviaans and have seen some suggestions that there be such a thread, Like here.

    So will all the people that see this thread and do travel through Baviaans, please post some pics as well as road conditions so that the rest of us who are interested in travelling there will at least be able to find the information easily.

    Road conditions can include the normal Baviaans Kloof route, the route from Kareedouw to Doringkloof (aka. The Rust-en-Vrede route), the Grootrivierpas route and anything else in the area that I have forgotten.

    I will ask that this thread be made a sticky
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    Default Re: Baviaans Kloof and Kouga Route Road Conditions

    An example of the Kareedouw (Rust-en-Vrede route) route for those looking. Some good information here
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    Quote Originally Posted by tintin_85 View Post
    Hi all

    I see a lot of threads where people (especially people outside of the EC) ask about the road conditions in the Baviaans and have seen some suggestions that there be such a thread, Like here.

    So will all the people that see this thread and do travel through Baviaans, please post some pics as well as road conditions so that the rest of us who are interested in travelling there will at least be able to find the information easily.

    Road conditions can include the normal Baviaans Kloof route, the route from Kareedouw to Doringkloof, the Grootrivierpas route and anything else in the area that I have forgotten.

    I will ask that this thread be made a sticky
    Good idea, was thinking the same thing just this morning.

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    Default Re: Baviaans Kloof and Kouga Route Road Conditions

    Made it a sticky!

    I'll add a contribution on road conditions at the end of September when I'll be traveling through the kloof and back again.

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    Default Re: Baviaans Kloof and Kouga Route Road Conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Barto View Post
    Made it a sticky!

    I'll add a contribution on road conditions at the end of September when I'll be traveling through the kloof and back again.
    OT Sorry:

    Barto, can you look at the KZN section, there is a thread there about Interesting places which we also want to be made a sticky please
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    Default Re: Baviaans Kloof and Kouga Route Road Conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Barto View Post
    Made it a sticky!

    I'll add a contribution on road conditions at the end of September when I'll be traveling through the kloof and back again.
    Sounds like we will see each other in the Kloof.
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    Drove through from Doornkloof to Addo. Very few water crossings and none of them were deep. Easy going all the way. From this thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel 4x4 View Post
    Sounds like we will see each other in the Kloof.
    I'm going the last weekend in September, not the long weekend for the Jamboree.

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    Just completed the Rust-en-Vrede route from Doringkloof to Kareedouw today! Before that from Patensie to Doodsklip!

    Baviaans road itself not bad but some rocky sections and a small mud patch close to the Western gate, hidden rock damaged another guys car that I chatted to.

    Then the Kareedouw route... Wow!!! What an amazing drive! Challenging, some really rocky washed out areas, but we did it with my Fortuner and towing the Baobab, all 1.7 tons of it!

    I have new respect for the Tuna, and its low down torque, especially in low range!! And the Bush Lapa just followed behind without any complaints. Almost entire route done in 2nd low except a few sections requiring 1st with difflock.

    Biggest worry was tyre cuts as there are really sharp stones along the route, some steep uphill sections with steps. The Geolanders on the Tuna and Wranglers on the caravan performed well.

    The mid section has been nicely repaired with lots of “keer walle” and then there is a 5km stretch before the Baviaans Lodge that quite rough.

    We got to a gate just before the lodge and it was locked by East Cape Nature. The owner was not impressed as he uses that road to get to his veld also, said he would contact them. Anyway, nothing a shifting spanner and removal of the gates eyebolts cant fix (dont worry we put the gate back)

    Anyway, in summary, it takes long 4-6 hrs, you will scratch your car and or trailer/caravan, tyre cutes very likely... but its doable, and the views are spectacular!

    I will post pics once home

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    I did the Karedow to doringkloof through the big burnt mountains with my Isuzu 4x2,had no hassles 2 years ago. Lovely drive, plenty of gates to open and close, hence take a lightly to open gates
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    Default Re: Baviaans Kloof and Kouga Route Road Conditions

    Some pics of the Kareedouw Route (Rust-en-Vrede route)

    Seems there are two routes you can take. From the Doringkloof side you can either go West at the silver signboard (about 24km from Doring kloof) that says "Baviaans Lodge" or turn sharp left and go the Eastern route. Not sure if the Nature guys locked a gate on that road too.

    Having issues with internet now... will post the pics later.
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    Default Re: Baviaans Kloof and Kouga Route Road Conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Grumbles View Post
    Some pics of the Kareedouw Route (Rust-en-Vrede route)

    Seems there are two routes you can take. From the Doringkloof side you can either go West at the silver signboard (about 24km from Doring kloof) that says "Baviaans Lodge" or turn sharp left and go the Eastern route. Not sure if the Nature guys locked a gate on that road too.

    Having issues with internet now... will post the pics later.
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    Nice to see the mountains have regrowth. When I went they just had a devastating fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunter26 View Post
    Nice to see the mountains have regrowth. When I went they just had a devastating fire.
    Jip, and its those burnt bushes on the narrow sections that added some serious scratches to the train

    But hey... if I wanted to tow a Elegance with a new Lexus... we would mis out on all these views!!
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    I am leaving Saturday morning from PE to enter from the Western side of the Baviaans. Staying over at Uitspan first, before traveling on Sunday through Cambria and then going out the Eastern Gate, staying over at Kudu Kaya.

    I am not so much of a picture taker, but more in a moment type of person. I will try to take some pics.
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    Default Re: Baviaans Kloof and Kouga Route Road Conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by Grumbles View Post
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    Thanks Grumbles! The pics gave me some insperation, Im going to do this route very soon with our XT-140 trailer! Couldnt find any space in kloof, so we camping at van Stadens this weekend
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlam86 View Post
    Thanks Grumbles! The pics gave me some insperation, Im going to do this route very soon with our XT-140 trailer! Couldnt find any space in kloof, so we camping at van Stadens this weekend
    No worries.

    When you do the route, maybe contact the owner of Baviaans Lodge, and check if the gate just close to his place is open and if he sorted it out with East Cape Parks.

    I have not spoken to him to find out why it was locked.

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    We left PE at 8pm on Friday night and got to Glencoe at 21:15 where we spent the night.

    Saturday morning we traveled through the reserve all the way to Speekhout where we stayed in their amazing Treehouse. Along the way we stopped off at various view points and supported the locals at two of the road side shops.

    On Sunday we headed back through the reserve to Padlangs where we had lunch.

    The road in the Combrink's and Holgat Pass areas were pretty much what I expected, but I was surprised by how much more concrete sections there are on the Holgat Pass since the last I visited the kloof in 2015.

    In the Grasnek Pass area the roads are pretty bad in some places....or at least worse than what I've seen it in the past.

    On Saturday we got quite a bit of traffic including a convoy of 8 4x4's with caravans from Bloemfontein. Fortunately we could stop on the side of the road, take a rest and wait for them all to pass us. We also saw a few softroaders, like Tiguans and Foresters which probably found some pieces of the road quite interesting. There were also at least 10 bikes passing through the kloof.

    Sunday however was the quietest I've seen the kloof in the 25 years I've been going there. We found no cars actually driving all the way through the pass, and there were only 2 vehicle parked at Smitskraal and one at the entrance to Doodsklip.

    I'll post some pics once I've downloaded them.

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