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    Default 10 Reasons Why you should NOT build a Heavy 4WD Tourer

    I found this video very thought provoking.

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    Totally agree.

    I have also stripped out a lot.
    Food - Get it on route
    Fuel - I am actually adding more. Std is 180. I will be adding another 200l.
    Tools and rigging. An evil I need to carry.
    Towing - The tri axle actually feels very light and takes a lot of stress off the car.
    Water - 25l is fine for me.
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    Have also stripped down to essentials, no need to impress anyone.

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    Very good video Poen!

    My no.10 would be oversize tires. Those oversize tire's makes a car handle and drive like a pig, and increases fuel consumption and stopping distances.

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    The video certainly speaks from my favorite page of the overlanding handbook.
    Weight is the worst enemy!
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    Ja dit is die ding te veel onnodige goed wat mense op hulle 4x4 sit en saam vat en dan word die helfte nooit eers gebruik nie.
    Ek self probeer om nie onnodige goed wat ek nie gaan gebruik saam met my te vat nie al kan my 4x4 die gewig dra.

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    Yup, totally agree. My 1st Defender was the worst. I fitted just about anything I could find and could make room for. After a few of them, I went progressively lighter and lighter. Basically now all I have is a winch, duel battery, extra sparewheel, 160 litres of diesel and a simple drawer. for tools and recovery stuff.

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    I'll say it straight, I thought of all of that already. Yet there are still many people who build 20 ton monsters on 2 ton chassis then act surprised when it breaks, or they find the've run out of fuel when I'm 1000k's ahead of them, etc etc.

    Swambo and I are chilling in camp with our D90. Some guy with a full setup wanders over and suggests we should let our tyres down to the correct pressure and then lectures us about damaging roads blah blah blah. Thing is, we don't weigh 6 tons, so our tyres appeared to be hard. They were at 1.2 bar. I asked him and he said his were also at 1.2bar, yet his rims were almost touching the ground. He told me his GCM was in fact 6 tons. It was just a normal sized but seriously kitted Landcruiser.
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    The other day I collected a LC d/c in Walvis that "fell over". That thing must have weighed in at 4,7ton. The owners father admitted to the fact that it weighed over 4,5ton. Between the front seats, was a huge fridge.. Maybe why it "fell over".
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    Ja van die goed wat die Aussie hier wys het ek al lank trug begin doen.
    Hoop net hulle die Aussies pas dit ook toe wat hy hier wys want van die videos wat ek al gesien het van hulle 4x4 oorlaai hulle maar hul voertuie

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    I have seen a Cruiser with a camper setup on the back, it weighed almost 5 tons. The tires are at 3.5 bar and you can still see them bulging under the weight.

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    I have a friend who owns a fully loaded Land Cruiser camper built to the max. Fantastic machine.......as long as it is parked! Driving it is a real chore. It is too heavy altogether, rolls like crazy, tail heavy, nose light, steering dodgy, unstable at speed.

    He recently drove a Defender Puma for the first time and could not stop talking about how light it felt, how well it handled (I kid you not), how much power it had and how little diesel it used.

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    Makes me think my sister and my heavy did a Namibia trip along the coast a while back through the sperrgebied. They were driving their Amarok wit only the bare essentials, clothes , two camping chairs, table two man tent extra fuel some water all fitted in the standard vehicle and so did their friends with the same vehicle and setup. When they arrived at the departure point there were some other guys with Landcruises etc fitted witn every piece of equipment possible.

    The other guys gave them s$&t saying it looks like they are on their way to church on a Sunday.

    My heavy said they were put in front of the convoy innitially until all they guys behind with their overladen vehicles got stuck all the time.

    Eventually the tour guide moved the light Amaroks to the back to not drive away from the convoy as the others got stuck and sukkel’d their way through.
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    The guides actually advise to carry as little as possibly.

    But, hou my dop, check hierrie move....
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    There must be a business opportunity in this ........

    You can make stuff out of lightweight plastic that looks like the real thing. So, how about plastic bull bars, winches, roof racks, rooftop tents, rear bumpers, spare wheels and even a high-lift jack, spade, axe, etc, etc ?

    A lot of these fitments are done for show in any case, and as the Ford guys with the stick-on Raptor plastics have proven already, they are not adverse to glueing stuff to their cars to make them "look" the part......

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamM View Post
    Very good !!!!!!!!

    I come from a hiking background where everything that goes with on a trip has to be carried on your back. I've been weighing stuff and counting food for years and today my fully laden vehicle is well within it's load limits.

    This is how my extended cab vehicle was packed for a 2 week solo trip to the Khaudum a few years ago.

    Rooftop tent on top of canopy, 1 bag with clothes, my camera equipment, and a small 14L Engel Fridge for water and cold drinks, on the go, inside the cab. Inside the canopy a 52 L fridge with my food, 2 ammo cases with food and cooking utensils, 1 chair, a box with tools and recovery equipment, extra spare tyre, 4 x 10 L fuel containers, sand ladders and an air jack.

    As this photo was taken at the end of the trip, a few things are gone already ... a few 5L water bottles and a few bags of charcoal.

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    Heavy vehicles often require suspension mods and heavy recovery equipment making them even heavier. I have 3 plasyic boxes. Cuttlery, cleaning material and food. RTT, Table, 2 chairs, 100ltr water and a 50 ltr fridge. All these Campers thrown on the back of the bakkies are way to heavy and make the vehicles unstable. Unfortunately many people want to go camping / overlanding with the same luxuries as at home. And then there are the exebitionists that fit a whole 4x4 shop to their 4x4.
    The idea is to keep it simple. I have long ago started to stay away from travel companions with 4x4 on steroids.
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    Here is our 12 ton monster with fully kitted kitchen in the rear. Burns a whopping 10L/100km.

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    Why don't we continue to post photos of our super lightweight 4x4 tourers and why we keep them light? I'm sure there're many more reasons why you should not go overlanding in a Mad Max tank.

    Our main reason is to save money for diesel so we can actually go somewhere. We've done nearly 40 000km with this setup and not really missed anything. Still haven't bothered with a fridge and all the expensive weighty gear needed to run it. We might do drawers, at some point. The only accessories I did add, after a good few thousand k's, was the alu roof rack, ladder and gas holder.
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